2020 Presidential election

[Zombie]

It's conceivable that Bernie could win in Nevada. It's been a blue state for a while. Bernie also has an army on the ground there for the primary. You're still not going to get Republicans or conservative-leaning Independents to participate in pre-Democratic primary polls.

I meant to link to the page with all the swing state polls, not Nevada specifically. If you click the drop down menu that says General election you can see for yourself how well he and others are polling against Trump in swing states.

Bernie's leading in Michigan, Pennsylvania, North Carolina, Ohio, Wisconsin, Nevada and others. Tied in Florida.

 

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

I meant to link to the page with all the swing state polls, not Nevada specifically. If you click the drop down menu that says General election you can see for yourself how well he and others are polling against Trump in swing states.

Bernie's leading in Michigan, Pennsylvania, North Carolina, Ohio, Wisconsin, Nevada and others. Tied in Florida.

I honestly don't think Bernie would beat Trump in any of those states--maybe he gets Nevada. I don't think he'd even get Michigan. He won't get Florida, Ohio, North Carolina, or Pennsylvania. Maybe Wisconsin is close again, hard to say. I think Bernie could even lose Virginia, New Hampshire and Colorado--states that Hillary won last time around.

I don't think you're getting people who plan to vote for Trump to participate in polls. They have no stake in it right now.

In order to beat Trump, the Dems need a strong candidate and they need unity. Right now, they don't have either. Trump is about as popular with Republicans right now as Obama was with Dems during 2012, and he's gained several points with Independents during the impeachment fiasco.

 

[Zombie]

I honestly don't think Bernie would beat Trump in any of those states--maybe he gets Nevada. I don't think he'd even get Michigan. He won't get Florida, Ohio, North Carolina, or Pennsylvania. Maybe Wisconsin is close again, hard to say. I think Bernie could even lose Virginia, New Hampshire and Colorado--states that Hillary won last time around.

I don't think you're getting people who plan to vote for Trump to participate in polls. They have no stake in it right now.

Maybe? I'm not sure I've ever heard that people need to have a "stake" in order to respond to a poll, but OK.

In any case I think you're underestimating the level of support Bernie has managed to gain among the working class across the country. His base of support isn't coming from the same place as Hillary, and pretty much every Dem that voted for her will cast a vote to get Trump out of office.

Also lol at Sanders not winning Colorado, that one's in the bag.

 

[Jazzta]

Thriller what’s happenin? You’re getting hit from the left? Lol

 

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

Maybe? I'm not sure I've ever heard that people need to have a "stake" in order to respond to a poll, but OK.

In any case I think you're underestimating the level of support Bernie has managed to gain among the working class across the country. His base of support isn't coming from the same place as Hillary, and pretty much every Dem that voted for her will cast a vote to get Trump out of office.

Also lol at Sanders not winning Colorado, that one's in the bag.

There's no doubt that Sanders has more support than any other single Democratic candidate right now. If a couple of the more moderate candidates dropped out of the race, and their support consolidated behind the one remaining, then that might change. He's leading a weak field. Lets see how this plays out. You're welcome to sig anything I've written here.

 

[Gameface]

This is high comedy.

I'll have you to thank for 4 more years of Trump. EAD, Eat MY Dick. **** you and **** your "if the Democratic nominee isn't perfect than we deserve Trump" perspective.

Seriously. You are going to give us 4 more years of Trump.

High comedy? I want to bash your stupid ****ing brains in with a hammer right now.

That would be high comedy.

 

[Gameface]

He shares Trump's authoritarian tendencies and his racism, both things are much more dangerous when wielded by someone with competence. He's a warmonger who still believes the war in Iraq was justified, and gave many a speech in support of it.

From stop and frisk to creating a surveillance state for Muslims in New York to illegally detaining protestors he's repeatedly shown he's a danger to freedom in this country.

More than anything though his nomination would mean that democracy in this country is truly dead or at the very least dying. Are we really willing to hand the presidency over to an oligarch who simply paid his way into office?

If Trump and Bloomberg are our choices I'm out. **** that.

I still think the war in Iraq was justified. I'll give you the 1000 word explanation if you really want it. It's not the same story Bush gave. But I think there was justification for that war.

 

[Gameface]

Well, you're in luck. You're probably going to get all three.

One bad apple spoils the bunch...

And all three are bad apples, I'd just take the one's with a few worms over the one that will give me gonorrhea.

 

[Gameface]

bernie polls better with independents than all of your **** stain neolib candidates

**** you!

You are going to help get the U.S. 4 more years of trump because it's all or nothing for Sanders for you.

Stay out of our ****. We want something better than Trump. That's all. Just something better than Trump.

The perfect is the enemy of the good. Anyone familiar with that statement? Well that's what's happening here. In our quest for perfect we are going to sacrifice the good and we'll end up with Trump, a ****ing dumpster fire.

 

[Gameface]

What might tomorrow bring? I hope something better. I'm logging off for the night...

 

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

I still think the war in Iraq was justified. I'll give you the 1000 word explanation if you really want it. It's not the same story Bush gave. But I think there was justification for that war.

Does your thousand-word explanation for the Iraq war involve Saddam refusing to allow a Rothschild-controlled central bank, or the U.S. military seeking to control an ancient alien technology site?

 

[Gameface]

Does your thousand-word explanation for the Iraq war involve Saddam refusing to allow a Rothschild-controlled central bank, or the U.S. military seeking to control an ancient alien technology site?

Yeah, that's the central argument.

Spoiler alert next time dick face.