2020 Presidential election

[One Brow]

Here is some news for you guys that only read liberal/anti-Trump sites:

When you have to lie about the difference between protesting and rioting to make your point, that's awfully sad.

 

[Beer]

Here is some news for you guys that only read liberal/anti-Trump sites:

Kamala is a moron and a terrible VP pick. That much we can agree on.

 

[PJF]

Good luck everyone. I will leave you to your echo chamber and take a break from JazzFanz until the election.

 

[fishonjazz]

This is completely correct - I'm more than alarmed that over the last couple of months the definition of a "Karen" has gone from a white woman with a ridiculous sense of entitlement to basically every white women over 40 who lives in the suburbs and isn't running around screaming her head off like these ultra woke *****eads. This is the group that cost Hillary in 2016 and should really be a slam dunk for the Dems this time around.



If Biden gets elected, he'll do some good stuff, he'll do some bad stuff; but for the most part it will be the same old mediocre ********* coming out of the White House.

Donald Trump is a direct threat to our democracy on multiple levels - I say this with zero hyperbole. He has to not only lose, he has to get crushed. Otherwise, while Trump may be discarded, the "brand" will still be viable. And next time it won't be a insecure buffoon like him - it will be someone much smarter and more polished.

I agree with all of this and some of what beer was saying
I do think the Dems are losing some people due to all the rioting and protesting. I do think the Dems are losing some people by the ultra wokeness being demanded of everyone.

But then you have trump. This is an easy choice people.

Really really good post candrew

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[fishonjazz]

Could be, I'm not big on either Kamala or Joe, but if people aren't willing to recognize the unique awfulness of Trump after the last few years I'm not sure anything Biden or "the far left" does will matter anyway.

This.

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[fishonjazz]

I think a lot of people, including myself, realize what a buffoon Trump and his admin are and are looking for the left to do ANYTHING reasonable or logical and aren't seeing it. So we feel like, what's the point? Just another slimeball president appointing corrupt people everywhere. No one looking out for the greater good, just trying to keep money in their billionaire benefactors pockets. I have absolutely 0 confidence Joe Biden will fix anything or make anything better. 0. None. I mean his main message of "Hey, I'm not Trump" isn't cutting it for a lot of people. The people he needs to vote for him. I really really really want to be done with Trump. I'm just not convinced Biden isn't just a slicker less abrasive Trump. I will not vote for Trump but Biden has done nothing to make me want to vote for him.

What makes you think Joe is just a slimeball who will appoint corrupt people all around him?

How many wives has he cheated on? How many fake universities has he created? How many charities has he frauded? How many times has he been impeached? How many people who worked on his many campaigns over the years have been convicted of crimes?

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[fishonjazz]

I'm certain he is an aspiring autocrat. I'm certain that 95% of those that run on both sides are aspiring autocrats. He's too stupid to succeed, but sure he'll try. Just like Obama tried, and Bush tried, and so on and so on before them also tried. Maybe I'm too jaded, but everyone involved in all of this are scumbags. You have to be to get to the highest ranks of politics.

How many times did Obama and bush get impeached? How many of their cohorts were convicted of crimes?

If you can't see trump is different than all these other examples then you are simply broken.

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[NAOS]

I agree with all of this and some of what beer was saying
I do think the Dems are losing some people due to all the rioting and protesting. I do think the Dems are losing some people by the ultra wokeness being demanded of everyone.

But then you have trump. This is an easy choice people.

Really really good post candrew

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Can anyone who feels that Trump is on the upswing point to any actual evidence of this claim? He might be getting the traditional post-convention bump, but that **** always fades. And even with a bump all outlets show that he’s still in a significant hole.

I think all of these claims are popping off because we can imagine Trump making a comeback (like he did on 2016). But the difference between imagination and reality is obvi important to consider.

 

[fishonjazz]

Good cool normal stuff.

His supporters could be shooting people with arrows and he would be like, "well they aren't using actual bullets so it's ok and peaceful"

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[fishonjazz]

Can anyone who feels that Trump is on the upswing point to any actual evidence of this claim? He might be getting the traditional post-convention bump, but that **** always fades. And even with a bump all outlets show that he’s still in a significant hole.

I think all of these claims are popping off because we can imagine Trump making a comeback (like he did on 2016). But the difference between imagination and reality is obvi important to consider.

I will be completely honest. I'm worried Trump will win again. I shouldn't be because no one in the entire world would vote for him if they had any morals whatsoever. Unfortunately I know many many trump fans (certainly more trump fans than Biden fans. I don't think I have ever even met a Biden fan before). I told my wife not to be surprised if trump wins again. She thinks I'm crazy and he has no chance.

I want to believe that this country still has enough decency to get rid of a douchebag like trump but my hope and belief is dwindling.

My wife and I were talking about presidential elections the other night and she was trying to think of what she would want out of a good candidate. I said hell, I will settle for any decent human being at this point.

I do think that overall Biden is a pretty decent human being with an actual large range of emotions and the ability to be empathetic.

Trump has no decency, and no empathy. He rarely shows gratitude, forgiveness, humility, kindness. He basically lacks any good emotions.

He has jealousy, pride, greed, anger...... Basically a piece of human filth.

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[latin jazz]

Good luck everyone. I will leave you to your echo chamber and take a break from JazzFanz until the election.

 

[Avery]

538 has Trump at an ~30% change of winning, same as four years ago.

A large part of that is due to uncertainty with the election still being two months away. They've stated that if the current numbers were holding true by Nov. 3, Biden's chance would actually be around 90%.