2021 Free Agency

[infection]

Everyone just take a seat for a second… I need to tell you all something.

The Jazz cannot accept a player who is signed and traded without dumping a BIG contract first… so please dream accordingly. They will be over the apron and this can’t accept a player in a sign and trade deal.

They can use the taxpayer MLE to sign someone… or they can use the trade exception to take someone who is already under contract. That player needs to make less than 9.2M

Okay thanks everyone.

Do you think we could get OPJ with our S&T Favors exception and then go use the TPMLE on Oladipo?

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

I do not get it either. Beside the fact that Lowry has battled some injuries.

He was shut down last year to aid their tank. He’s been really durable.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Do you think we could get OPJ with our S&T Favors exception and then go use the TPMLE on Oladipo?

Straight shot… right to the baby maker.

 

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

Jazz could try to get Portis or Markkanen on a sign-and-trade depending on what they're willing to give up. Portis could get Joe Ingles money. He'll at least get Royce O'Neale money. Jazz are maneuvering under the LT at the moment and passed on Juwan Morgan's QO to maintain a little flexibility.

 

[Ineptimusprime]

I think because he is still really good at basketball. I also think people saw what Chris Paul did this year with the Suns and they think they can duplicate it.

I can understand a one year deal at $30 million, but there’s a zero percent chance he’s a $30 million dollar player at 39 years old.

 

[Ujfanatic]

So again, for the record, because of the team's salary situation they almost certainly cannot receive a player via sign and trade, regardless of that player's salary. . There is virtually no way the Jazz can do that at this point. If you receive a player via sign and trade, you are hard capped. With the Jazz (reportedly) re-signing Conley for $20 we are over the tax apron already.

The only free agents we should be talking about are those that might sign for 5.9 million or less.

If we want to dream about using one of the trade exceptions, those must be for a player already under contract.

For for players like OPJ, Oladipo etc... the only way they are coming to the Jazz is if they accept the tax payer's MLE, which unfortunately many other teams will also be able to offer.

 

[Elizah Huge]

So again, for the record, because of the team's salary situation they almost certainly cannot receive a player via sign and trade, regardless of that player's salary. . There is virtually no way the Jazz can do that at this point. If you receive a player via sign and trade, you are hard capped. With the Jazz (reportedly) re-signing Conley for $20 we are over the tax apron already.

The only free agents we should be talking about are those that might sign for 5.9 million or less.

If we want to dream about using one of the trade exceptions, those must be for a player already under contract.

For for players like OPJ, Oladipo etc... the only way they are coming to the Jazz is if they accept the tax payer's MLE, which unfortunately many other teams will also be able to offer.

We could easily take someone back if we sent out one of Clarkson/Ingles/Bogey in the trade.

 

[Coach Ellis]

We could easily take someone back if we sent out one of Clarkson/Ingles/Bogey in the trade.

I’m pretty sure they’re planning to run it back with those guys. The biggest issue we have right now is no pick flexibility to consolidate contracts into a 3rd star if an opportunity arises.

 

[campaignist]

So again, for the record, because of the team's salary situation they almost certainly cannot receive a player via sign and trade, regardless of that player's salary. . There is virtually no way the Jazz can do that at this point. If you receive a player via sign and trade, you are hard capped. With the Jazz (reportedly) re-signing Conley for $20 we are over the tax apron already.

The only free agents we should be talking about are those that might sign for 5.9 million or less.

If we want to dream about using one of the trade exceptions, those must be for a player already under contract.

For for players like OPJ, Oladipo etc... the only way they are coming to the Jazz is if they accept the tax payer's MLE, which unfortunately many other teams will also be able to offer.

Okay, can someone explain how this all works with the apron? I know how the cap and tax works, I don't get the apron.
I thought it was mostly a hard cap, but it would reduce the exceptions you could use, and you're locked in as a an apron team all year even if you cut salary.
Is that even close to how it works? Is it that if the MLE exception brings you over the apron, you can't use the TPE?
What does the apron do to the Bi-annual exception?

 

[zyzz]

Ntilikina and Zach Collins are UFAs. I'd take Frank at the minimum for sure. I'm still intrigued by Collins for the minimum, but dude is made of glass and will probably keep breaking his foot.

Tony Jones also indicated that the Jazz have a target for the taxpayer's MLE, and if they don't use it then that means they didn't get their guy.

 

[Ujfanatic]

We could easily take someone back if we sent out one of Clarkson/Ingles/Bogey in the trade.

I certainly do not think we could "easily" take someone back, but my comment was mostly in response to suggestions of using the trade exception to take back a sign and trade player.

We currently have almost $122 million in salary committed to 9 players. If you add Conley and Butler you are likely pushing into $145 million range (depending on contract terms) for 11 players. The NBA requires you to carry 15 players (or they charge you an empty roster spot). In order to receive a player back in a sign and trade, the Jazz would need to be able to take on that player's salary, shed approximately 5 million dollars, and still fill out the rest of their roster while staying under the anticipated $140 million apron.

 

[zyzz]

Oh, I'd also take a flyer on Justise Winslow for the minimum