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Elizah Huge said:
I really do not want to get into this because I’ve done it so much over the years with friends and family.

LeBron is more clutch than Jordan and Kobe. He’s literally the clutchest player of all time with the amount of volume he’s had.

Pippen was a top-3 MVP candidate the year after Jordan retired and the Bulls won 2 less games. They were a Game 7 away from the ECF. Don’t tell me Jordan did more with less. LeBron has dragged two out of three of the worst rosters to the Finals ever (Iverson did the other).
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I just respect the OG's, and acknowledge that the mid 2000's was probably the lowest point of the NBA.

Pippen may have had a stellar year the year after Jordan retired, but before Jordan returned in the 94-95 season the Bulls were struggling to stay afloat. Teams caught on to the Jordan less Bulls the year after, and you can't tell me Pippen would've kept the Bulls contenders without Jordan.

Once Jordan, Malone, Stockton, Payton all retired the NBA went through a cold front where they were transitioning into the new era of play. The East was a very weak conference with only 3-4 eastern Conference teams having respectable records, and all of the top dogs were in the West. LeBron was the big revolutionary piece of the new era, and because he was in a weak eastern Conference he had the advantage of taking mediocre squads deep into the playoffs. But let's not act like he had nobody around him, in the mid 2000's guys like Larry Hughes, Mo Williams, Ben Wallace, Drew Golden were players you could build a solid 4-7 seed playoff team around in the East. Lol, that's how weak that conference was.

Do you really think the 03-04 Pistons could accomplish winning a ring in today's era? Doubt it. There were a lot of weak teams that wouldn't win **** today that went far in the playoffs in the mid 2000's.

Remember Corey Maggette? 20 ppg player. Ricky Davis? 20 ppg player. These guys wouldn't be capable of doing that in today's league.
 
The fact that MJ won more and is unquestionably less talented and less physically gifted than Lebron tells you everything you need to know about the difference.

MJ would show up with a knife to a gun fight and be the last man standing.
 
NUMBERICA said:
The fact that MJ won more and is unquestionably less talented and less physically gifted than Lebron tells you everything you need to know about the difference.

MJ would show up with a knife to a gun fight and be the last man standing.
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JK, he’s ****ing Demar DeRozan.
 
NUMBERICA said:
The fact that MJ won more and is unquestionably less talented and less physically gifted than Lebron tells you everything you need to know about the difference.

MJ would show up with a knife to a gun fight and be the last man standing.
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Lol. Okay. Sure.

In his day, MJ was a top athlete. Maybe #1.

In today's game, MJ is not a top athlete. Maybe top 10.

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NUMBERICA said:
The fact that MJ won more and is unquestionably less talented and less physically gifted than Lebron tells you everything you need to know about the difference.

MJ would show up with a knife to a gun fight and be the last man standing.
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This is a great analogy of why Jordan is the goat
 
Thee Idiotic Minivan K said:
How would you explain away LeBron with Wade and Bosh losing to Dirk and a bunch of role players of varying talent? Can’t imagine this happening to Jordan.
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There’s a lot of variance with Lebron, which makes sense since he’s the most talented/gifted player of all time.

So while Lebron is the dude that lost to Dirk and a bunch of really good role players, he also beat one of the best all-time teams in the finals after being down 3-1.
 
LBJ or Kobe win the 6 that MJ won if roles were reversed.

I don't think MJ beats GS if roles were reversed.

MJ had to have Pippen to win, but Pippen gets slandered by MJ. Shameful

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LoPo said:
Lol. Okay. Sure.

In his day, MJ was a top athlete. Maybe #1.

In today's game, MJ is not a top athlete. Maybe top 10.

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And MJ had to actually struggle in his younger days to get where he got. He was not seen as particularly gifted at the game. He worked himself into that from scrap and that’s the biggest difference in their games and their achievements.
 
NUMBERICA said:
There’s a lot of variance with Lebron, which makes sense since he’s the most talented/gifted player of all time.

So while Lebron is the dude that lost to Dirk and a bunch of really good role players, he also beat one of the best all-time teams in the finals after being down 3-1.
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They might’ve lost had Draymond Green not been suspended. Cavs were very lucky in that aspect. Curry also wilted the last few games.
 
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