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Handlogten's Heros said:
Jamal’s dad is something else entirely lol. We don’t know every kids back story but I think when they are good we generally hear about it… could be wrong. Donovan played baseball… we heard all about it… Love did too… I think the benefits are multifaceted but if you want to dismiss it I’m fine with that too.

It’s corny and cheesy I get it but there are just some dudes that are built for competition… I have no doubt Cason is built for it too… it’s really a confluence of things that led me back to Black. I think the percentages and analytics are all great but sometimes we ignore this type of stuff where it’s like how much fight does this kid have.
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Gordon Hayward credited his lateral quickness to being a top HS tennis recruit.

This **** matters. Certain sports train certain movement patterns to a higher degree. Yes, you can train those things for basketball, but you arent going to have the same level of intent. Like the tennis example, the entire sport revolves around your ability to move laterally. You can train for that in basketball, but no basketball player is putting the same focus into their lateral movement as a tennis player. It's just common sense.
 
KqWIN said:
I totally believe that Black's background contributed to the player he is.....but if it turns out that Cason's true passion is single player video games or whatever I'm not gonna question it because I see it on the court. We don't know what gives Cason the competitive fire, but I know he has it and I don't really care why he has it, that's all.

But if you told me Black grew 6 inches his senior year in high school, lets trade up to get him lol.
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Imma go ahead and use it as the tie breaker for two guys I have neck and neck.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Gordon Hayward credited his lateral quickness to being a top HS tennis recruit.

This **** matters. Certain sports train certain movement patterns to a higher degree. Yes, you can train those things for basketball, but you arent going to have the same level of intent. Like the tennis example, the entire sport revolves around your ability to move laterally. You can train for that in basketball, but no basketball player is putting the same focus into their lateral movement as a tennis player. It's just common sense.
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I used to play basketball against some dudes that were high level wrestlers. Dudes sucked at most things but my god they were phenomenal at using their bodies in the paint and using their bodies as leverage. Better than any basketball players I'd ever played.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
Imma go ahead and use it as the tie breaker for two guys I have neck and neck.
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When it's super close, you've got to look for something so I'm not hating on it just not for me. If I was going to draw one thing from playing multiple sports, I'd say that it's probably a good indicator for his future health that he played multiple sports. I think it's true that prospects are coming into the league with more wear and tear than ever. It's Tiger vs Federer.

And just too be clear, I do believe playing other sports helps with development. I just mean to say I don't care whether a player is the way he is because he played other sports or not. What does it mean when a guy has really good footwork from playing tennis versus playing basketball? I don't really care. I care that he has good feet. Same thing goes for this competitiveness stuff. I don't care what makes Black and Wallace great competitors, I care that they are great competitors.

I have Black > Wallace, but it's not because of a competitiveness edge and I'm not giving the competitiveness edge to someone because I know they played multiple sports (especially when I don't know if the other guy did or did not play other sports). For all we know Cason has some crazy backstory that drives him.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
this will make @Elizah Huge happy. I think I am back on the Anthony Black over Cason Wallace bandwagon. There was some article talking about how he was some damn 4 sport athlete and is just a mother effer as a competitor and I am here for all the slop I guess. I know Suggs was like a great football player and we all know Harpring was too... it isn't always an amazing indicator but I just think there are too many potential benefits to having a pg that size and will just cross my fingers on the shooting with him. Its part of what originally made me like him is just the teammate gym rat stuff...


I reserve the right to change my mind 12 more times.
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If you get Black, then you are going to need two REALLY good shooters at the 2 and 3/4 depending on what Lauri plays.
 
KqWIN said:
When it's super close, you've got to look for something so I'm not hating on it just not for me. If I was going to draw one thing from playing multiple sports, I'd say that it's probably a good indicator for his future health that he played multiple sports. I think it's true that prospects are coming into the league with more wear and tear than ever. It's Tiger vs Federer.

And just too be clear, I do believe playing other sports helps with development. I just mean to say I don't care whether a player is the way he is because he played other sports or not. What does it mean when a guy has really good footwork from playing tennis versus playing basketball? I don't really care. I care that he has good feet. Same thing goes for this competitiveness stuff. I don't care what makes Black and Wallace great competitors, I care that they are great competitors.

I have Black > Wallace, but it's not because of a competitiveness edge and I'm not giving the competitiveness edge to someone because I know they played multiple sports (especially when I don't know if the other guy did or did not play other sports). For all we know Cason has some crazy backstory that drives him.
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Yeah I guess we disagree. I see it as touching a whole bunch of positive indicators… and maybe Cason was similarly amazing at multiple sports… I get why you say you don’t care how they got the certain attribute… I think it may show there is more there and the ability to learn multiple skills and disciplines would give me more hope the shooting will work. Amongst a whole bunch of other things. I’m fine with it. Just thought it was interesting.
 
kcgar said:
If you get Black, then you are going to need two REALLY good shooters at the 2 and 3/4 depending on what Lauri plays.
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I agree… I just think finding good shooting 2s and 3s is easier than finding guards that will do what Black can with his unique physical attributes for a pg.

If I draft Black I’m betting on the shot being passable at some point.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
this will make @Elizah Huge happy. I think I am back on the Anthony Black over Cason Wallace bandwagon. There was some article talking about how he was some damn 4 sport athlete and is just a mother effer as a competitor and I am here for all the slop I guess. I know Suggs was like a great football player and we all know Harpring was too... it isn't always an amazing indicator but I just think there are too many potential benefits to having a pg that size and will just cross my fingers on the shooting with him. Its part of what originally made me like him is just the teammate gym rat stuff...

I reserve the right to change my mind 12 more times.
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View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4EG8WoDN4Co
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
I agree… I just think finding good shooting 2s and 3s is easier than finding guards that will do what Black can with his unique physical attributes for a pg.

If I draft Black I’m betting on the shot being passable at some point.
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The mechanics of Black's shot just look so gross to me. I personally never see it getting better.
 
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