agree with hh about black. he's right there at about 5-7. too many positives with elite size, vision, decision making and passing - near elite athleticism. definitely plus athlete. i don't like his low release set shot, but it's not as if his shot is broken. i have no idea what to think of the thompson twins - that league they play in is straight ****. i'd rather somebody else draft them and if they become stars, i can live with that. though, what we know is they are elite athletes with excellent length - again, i'd rather somebody else take them them top 5 or 6, but at around 10, yeah, you probably don't pass that up.