You can’t be serious. They’re 20-year olds playing against worse competition than college players and the best comeback you had was a game against the Creighton alumni team.
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You can’t be serious. They’re 20-year olds playing against worse competition than college players and the best comeback you had was a game against the Creighton alumni team.
"Hello braintrust of the Overtime Elite, people are saying that the level of competition here is trash. What can we do to prove that it isn't?
Braintrust: "Buckle up for the best idea you've heard since the idea of a league of 16-20 year olds: we have our best players go up against the Creighton alumni in a game with no stakes."
He averaged 19-4-4 in the G-League on 50% shooting. He's played in the Euroleaugue. He averaged 20-4-4 his senior year at Creighton. This is a fairly high level international player. The Omaha team (it's not just Creighton alumni) had a lot of pro players on the team.
It's ok if you have no basketball knowledge outside of the NBA, but I have no idea why yall are choosing to be purposefully ignorant.
The game is a tournament for 2 million dollars prize money.....
Why choose ignorance?
They also went on a European tour where they played teams like Bega-Max, a forgein team who has had several players drafted and have current 2023 draft prospect Nikola Durisic playing for them.
Your knowledge of an obsolete nobody isn’t the flex you think it is.
They played well. Ausuar had a lot of turnovers but it was them showing their freakish athletic gifts and talents off against professional basketball players.
Oh, okay. That settles all the other criticisms (that this is basically entirely untranslatable to serious basketball and has no basis for comparison)? You're right, I should come correct with serious takes, such as parading the Creighton Alumni as the gold standard of competition.
Flexing being ignorant is never good. I'm sorry you just started watching basketball last year I guess, because you're someone who proports to follow the draft but cant even remember one of the top college players from 2017 and would rather choose to spread stupidity than do simple google searches.
Bawse Dawg
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I would enjoy drafting one or both of the Thompson twins.
Even if you like the Twins, to deny that the competition is suspect is totally irrational. Somehow we're supposed to think that one single game in TBT just erases those concerns? Even if it was one game against an actual NBA team that's just one game. It doesn't mean they will bust, but the reality is they aren't proven.
If this game is so important, it should raise more question marks because they made a combined zero jumpshots and had the same amount of turnovers as FGs. A single TBT game being some kind of trump card is laughable to begin with, but why are we pretending like this was some legendary performance to end all doubts. They showed some stuff for sure, but I don't think anyone has really questioned their athleticism. They did not play bad, but they did the things we all know they can do.
I think you're just be willfully ignorant.
It's a high level of competition single elimination game against groups of players (not all Creighton players). They are adults in their prime who have overseas experience. These are players who are largely better and more experienced than the level of play you will get at the college level . College this past year showed us how important upperclassmen 5th/6th year senior transfers are. They arent the most talented players, but when you're 27 years old and have played a handful of years professionally at the high European level that is impressive.
If you give so much of a **** about OTE not being a good enough league to get a full picture of their ability, you should be excited to view them in different context against a different variety of competition. You aren't. You just want to **** on something that you arent able to understand because it's not presented to you in the most digestible way.
No one has said that. You just cant be a little bitch about OTE to the degree you would like to be because the Twins do have actual varying levels of competition on their resume, you just have to actually do the slightest bit of research which is going to be too hard for most casual draft followers.
Welcome aboard
The argument for any top draft pick is always talent. Competition level isnt as important. Of course it would help if everyone was on an equal competition level so we could see those differences, but that isnt going to be the case ever, even when guys all play in college.
You arent saying "Wow, lets draft Wemby because of all the winning he is doing". You are drafting him because you are saying "Holy **** look at his arms and how he moves". If Wemby was playing against 12 year olds you still take him 1st overall because the talent is that apparent.
Now, that level of talent isnt apparent with the Twins, so I'm not saying it's a 1:1 thing, but the talent is extremely apparent. The fact that in the TBT game they were able to step on a court with grown men who play professionally and their athletic impact was felt is good enough for me. Everything else just comes down to how workable you think the skills they dont have are, which is going to come down to individual workouts.
You arent saying "Wow, lets draft Wemby because of all the winning he is doing". You are drafting him because you are saying "Holy **** look at his arms and how he moves". If Wemby was playing against 12 year olds you still take him 1st overall because the talent is that apparent.
Now, that level of talent isnt apparent with the Twins, so I'm not saying it's a 1:1 thing, but the talent is extremely apparent. The fact that in the TBT game they were able to step on a court with grown men who play professionally and their athletic impact was felt is good enough for me. Everything else just comes down to how workable you think the skills they dont have are, which is going to come down to individual workouts.
Here is the full roster:
Admon Glider
Austin Chatman
Deion Bute
Deverell Biggs
Greg Smith
Jahenns Manigat
Ken Perkins
Manny Suarez
Marcus Foster
Ronnie Harrell
TreShawn Thurman
I have legit only heard of Foster and Glider. Most of them played in the mid 2010’s and are nearing their 30’s.
Also, is anyone saying the twins shouldn’t go top-10? I even said I would probably take Amen at 4. Cy making up arguments and using the Creighton Alumni team as the gold standard of talent level is pure gold.
What's with this huge influx of people just making **** up when you bring present them evidence?
"The twins only play against 16-19 year olds and they are 20"
*shows people a game they played against international pros"
"Nah that game doesnt count not enough Luka Doncic's playing*
I'm expecting a team to take GG in the 10-14 range once he interviews and works out for them. If he slides past Sam Presti, Masai Ujiri and David Griffin, it probably means that something went wrong in his pre-draft process.
Yes, this is how TBT works. There's a 2 million dollar pot. Not every team is loaded with the best of the best, because you have to pay the players from the pot. Some super teams get formed where guys take a lot less money, but most are going to have a clear top tier of talent then middle and lowers guys.