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KqWIN said:
Right.....I feel like if you watch the film you just as likely or even more likely dislike. Much of the discussion about GG is about his scoring. If you watch the games closely you will also see a guy who's lazy on defense, bad passing, low bbiq, low energy etc.

One of the things I picked out when watching him is that while he as quick feet and a decent first step he also takes a lot of steps to get where he's going. Doesn't have the long strides that can turn a slight advantage into a shot at the rim or free throws, it's easy for the defender to recover or help defense to get in the way. If he was able to make more of an impact with his tools in any way, scoring, rebounding, defense or otherwise I'd be interested. But right now his "talent" just leads to shots he's not very good at making.
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You are really planning to die on this anti GG hill. I look forward to see how it ends up. Personally I think he ends up a Tobias Harris caliber player which I would be very happy with.
 
sip said:
You are really planning to die on this anti GG hill. I look forward to see how it ends up. Personally I think he ends up a Tobias Harris caliber player which I would be very happy with.
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Am I dying on this hill? I have him rated higher than many draft outlets, just being realistic about what I see. I think Tobias is a nice, high end outcome for him. I don't think he will be the next Carmelo or whatever he's trying to be.
 
Its just funny when you watch like Keyonte's workout and he was taking and making ridiculous shots... but if GG struggles he simply made it too hard and that is really his agents job. Maybe he's just not an impressive shooter.

I don't change how I feel about him before or after his pro day. Just think at some point GG's super fans should look more inward than outward with regards to his issues. I'd take him in the 20s... and that is likely what NBA gms think at the end of the day too... that is where the risk/reward crosses paths and makes it an okay bet.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
Its just funny when you watch like Keyonte's workout and he was taking and making ridiculous shots... but if GG struggles he simply made it too hard and that is really his agents job. Maybe he's just not an impressive shooter.

I don't change how I feel about him before or after his pro day. Just think at some point GG's super fans should look more inward than outward with regards to his issues. I'd take him in the 20s... and that is likely what NBA gms think at the end of the day too... that is where the risk/reward crosses paths and makes it an okay bet.
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Regardless of where GG's career ends up, I can't remember a prospect that was babied so much. Like we can't count conference play because it's too hard? Workout against air is too hard? If that's too hard, how hard is it going to be for him in the NBA?

I don't care if someone likes GG a lot, it's fine to have a disagreement in opinion.....but the mental gymnastics and excuses for this guy are kinda crazy lol.
 
KqWIN said:
Regardless of where GG's career ends up, I can't remember a prospect that was babied so much. Like we can't count conference play because it's too hard? Workout against air is too hard? If that's too hard, how hard is it going to be for him in the NBA?
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I been saying this... the next steps are much harder and you've fed his ego a couple million dollars on top of it.
KqWIN said:
I don't care if someone likes GG a lot, it's fine to have a disagreement in opinion.....but the mental gymnastics and excuses for this guy are kinda crazy lol.
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That's all I'm trying to say... as VP of the Tay Henny fan club if he shot poorly in a workout I wouldn't be like "well his reps should have made the workout easier".

I'm not convinced by workouts either way.
 
KqWIN said:
Regardless of where GG's career ends up, I can't remember a prospect that was babied so much. Like we can't count conference play because it's too hard? Workout against air is too hard? If that's too hard, how hard is it going to be for him in the NBA?

I don't care if someone likes GG a lot, it's fine to have a disagreement in opinion.....but the mental gymnastics and excuses for this guy are kinda crazy lol.
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Interestingly, if you disregard Anthony Black’s 3 point misses, he’s 100% from 3 in his freshman year. So I don’t understand why people are worried about his shooting. Same for Wallace. Just ignore the 5 missing inches and he’s not undersized. He’s as tall as Magic!
 
Udidthizz said:
Interestingly, if you disregard Anthony Black’s 3 point misses, he’s 100% from 3 in his freshman year. So I don’t understand why people are worried about his shooting. Same for Wallace. Just ignore the 5 missing inches and he’s not undersized. He’s as tall as Magic!
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huh? unless he's a 6'9" pg, he's undersized? why does one need to ignore 5 supposed missing inches. 6'4" with his length is good size for a PG. no need to ignore anything.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
I been saying this... the next steps are much harder and you've fed his ego a couple million dollars on top of it.

That's all I'm trying to say... as VP of the Tay Henny fan club if he shot poorly in a workout I wouldn't be like "well his reps should have made the workout easier".

I'm not convinced by workouts either way.
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You are higher on Hendricks than me, but you are at least aware of the strengths/weaknesses. When you're bending over backwards and saying that the air is too tough for him it really feels like blind favoritism. It's hard to take seriously.

IMO, it's pretty clear why the "hard shots" is a bad thing. It's not just because he missed them and was gassed, it's because he's doubling down on this playstyle and his bad habits. Even if you think this guy is the most talented player in the world he has questions about his mentality and it's not a good look. Workouts are kinda BS and are literally a PR event...but if he came in in super shape, knocked down shots, had a lot of energy (basically what Keyonte did) I could see buying into the hype.

It's PR...so sell me on a version of that's different from the disaster that was his time at South Carolina. Do we really need to reinforce the crappy stuff and follow up excuses with why it doesn't matter?
 
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