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The only interesting trade scenario for Victor would be the 2nd or 3rd team in the draft order trading up, and those teams are OKC and San Antonio and they are giving you their pick (so Thompson or Scoot) and like 4 other first round picks.
 
Losing breeds losing winning breeds winning so I say let’s keep on winning! I really don’t want to be Houston or Oklahoma City still in the turnstile after five years.
Actually, getting generational talents breeds winning.

We’ve been ‘winning’ for years, how’d that work out?
 
The only interesting trade scenario for Victor would be the 2nd or 3rd team in the draft order trading up, and those teams are OKC and San Antonio and they are giving you their pick (so Thompson or Scoot) and like 4 other first round picks.
If the Jazz end up with 3d pick would you offer that for no. 1? 3+ 4 picks? What about more? What if they ask for all the picks we got from CLE and MIN?
 
If the Jazz end up with 3d pick would you offer that for no. 1? 3+ 4 picks? What about more? What if they ask for all the picks we got from CLE and MIN?
Not sure I would do this
As good as Victor might be you need other very good players to win
LeBron is maybe best ever and he can't win by himself
Whoever has #1 this year will not give up Victor for anything though
 
Not sure where to put this thought that I’ve alluded to previously, but knowing that that Wemby/Scoot game undoubtedly produced a seismic shift in the tanking calculus of teams and that there will be competitive tanking going on, the Mitchell and Bogey trades look even worse.

We did not need any polished win-now types coming back in either deal and we got 3 collectively. Add in the report that the Jazz had an offer of one unprotected Laker pick for a bunch of our guys and it gets even stupider.

If the market isn’t already ****ed for the Jazz dumping vets, it absolutely will be a few weeks into the season when a couple of hopefuls decide to turn the gun on themselves in hopes of a better next life, thereby increasing the saturation of teams offloading vets and sending a market signal to buyers that the price to buy vets went down.

My advice to the Jazz is this: stop trying to squeeze every deal. Stop with this fantasy that culture now means anything in five years. It’s over. Stop ****ing around and make it impossible to be good. We are far too far from that in this environment.
 
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