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I have context. You just have numbers. If you want to ignore context, go for it. That's what separates people who can and can't do this.

Lol.....Yeah sure. I have no context for these numbers. I guess can just totally determine a player's NBA success by the narrative of their college season.

What separates me and you is that you make up fake numbers in your head and try to lecture people on those made up things. Yeah, I'm not going to forget the time you tried to lecture me on "the modern NBA game" haha.
 
Still hilarious how quickly people are to write of Amen/Ausuar because they played in a new league (that they dominated) and didnt make a ton of 3's. The 3's will come. They seem to be elite level work ethic players.
 
Still hilarious how quickly people are to write of Amen/Ausuar because they played in a new league (that they dominated) and didnt make a ton of 3's. The 3's will come. They seem to be elite level work ethic players.
I’d take them in the top 7… there is middle ground between writing them off and and acknowledging the uncertainty there.
 
Feel for the game and hooper genes are the words you used… just weird. He does not go off script… doesn’t mean he lacks feel. On defense where it’s primarily about reaction and feel for the game he makes great rotations, protects the rim, etc.

I made up no fake words… you may as well have said Flip is gonna be good cuz he’s a baller and has that dawg in him. He has some kinks to work out but the biggest issue I saw when he played was he wasn’t as assertive as I would like but it was pretty clear he was running things the way he was asked to… not sure that it’s lacking feel for the game. Assist number aren’t amazing but if you watched him in actual games (not accusing here just stating it has to be more than YouTube analysis) he moves the ball quickly. With guys that lack feel there is more thinking and less ball movement. He’s decisive and I think it’s a strength and demonstrates feel but sure he I haven’t analyzed his dna to see if he has a hooper gene… haven’t checked the X-rays to see if he has that dawg in him… haven’t seen if he has the “it” factor.

I can directly quote the fake words you made up and argued against. I seriously do not care about these arguments you make up for yourself to argue against.

I can sit here and say "do you even watch the games hur durr". It doesn't matter. I know I watched the games and I know my opinion on it. Two people can watch the same show and have a different opinion on it. You say you have watched the games, it's a meaningless thing to hammer in on. When I watch Hendricks play, I do not see a natural feel to his offensive game...and by that I mean I don't think he's capable of making instinctive plays when things go off script. He can play within the flow of a game when there aren't many decisions to make and you don't ask him to make creative plays for himself. He is someone that looks better in a structured game rather than pick up style game where there is no structure and you more or less have to make plays on your own, hence the "hooper gene" comment. I really don't think this is controversial because you have said similar things several times over. You can say he plays this way because it's what he's being asked to do. The other side of this coin is that he's being asked to do this because it keeps him in positions to succeed and he's too raw to expand his game.

If you don't consider to be that "feel for the game".....ok. There's not a dictionary definition of this stuff, but I do not intend to answer for a dumb *** interpretation that you made up for himself. Never did I mention this and1 stuff or having that "dawg" in him. You made that up on your own.
 
I can directly quote the fake words you made up and argued against. I seriously do not care about these arguments you make up for yourself to argue against.

I can sit here and say "do you even watch the games hur durr". It doesn't matter. I know I watched the games and I know my opinion on it. Two people can watch the same show and have a different opinion on it. You say you have watched the games, it's a meaningless thing to hammer in on. When I watch Hendricks play, I do not see a natural feel to his offensive game...and by that I mean I don't think he's capable of making instinctive plays when things go off script. He can play within the flow of a game when there aren't many decisions to make and you don't ask him to make creative plays for himself. He is someone that looks better in a structured game rather than pick up style game where there is no structure and you more or less have to make plays on your own, hence the "hooper gene" comment. I really don't think this is controversial because you have said similar things several times over. You can say he plays this way because it's what he's being asked to do. The other side of this coin is that he's being asked to do this because it keeps him in positions to succeed and he's too raw to expand his game.

If you don't consider to be that "feel for the game".....ok. There's not a dictionary definition of this stuff, but I do not intend to answer for a dumb *** interpretation that you made up for himself. Never did I mention this and1 stuff or having that "dawg" in him. You made that up on your own.
Whatever man... when the NBA moves to a pickup style and the "hooper gene" is needed then I guess Taylor will struggle. If a guy isn't out there going yolo off script (especially as a frontcourt player) I am not going to question his feel... sorry. I also watched the guy in a broken play situation gather the ball... step back to the corner for a three, all while keeping his heels above the out of bounds line Steph Curry style... Definitively stating he has a lack of feel and is deficient in hooper gene because he has had a few misses is kinda funny sorry. He moves the ball fine and plays relatively mistake free.

I would also consider how effective he was on defense - where instincts and feel are really prevalent - and add that into my evaluation. Feel for the game is most obvious to see with passing and defense.
 
Hendricks biggest problems are his ball handling and playmaking ability. He also wasn’t very good at finishing around the rim (besides dunks).

Every guy has their faults I’m just pointing this out because everyone on here who likes him seems to think he is a lock to go top-8.
 
Whatever man... when the NBA moves to a pickup style and the "hooper gene" is needed then I guess Taylor will struggle. If a guy isn't out there going yolo off script (especially as a frontcourt player) I am not going to question his feel... sorry. I also watched the guy in a broken play situation gather the ball... step back to the corner for a three, all while keeping his heels above the out of bounds line Steph Curry style... Definitively stating he has a lack of feel and is deficient in hooper gene because he has had a few misses is kinda funny sorry. He moves the ball fine and plays relatively mistake free.

I would also consider how effective he was on defense - where instincts and feel are really prevalent - and add that into my evaluation. Feel for the game is most obvious to see with passing and defense.

Never said it's necessary, but it is a clear gap in his game at the moment. As I said before, it doesn't mean as much as far as his role player potential. I am going to question a player's feel for the game when he struggles to do anything off script. When a player hardly does anything off script, and when he does he struggles, I do not automatically assume he has a good feel for the game. IMO, that is something that has to be demonstrated. That's kinda how it works with any skill. If you don't demonstrate it well, I'm going to have it as a question mark and I do not believe he demonstrated these abilities well at the college level. Do you really believe he's the type of player you want to rely on his playmaking and shot creation on? I certainly do not think he's the make something out of nothing type of offensive player.

Defensively he's great. I wouldn't put him in the auto-Robert Covington territory as you have before, but this is the side of the court where he will make a living.

I also watched the guy in a broken play situation gather the ball... step back to the corner for a three, all while keeping his heels above the out of bounds line Steph Curry style... Definitively stating he has a lack of feel and is deficient in hooper gene because he has had a few misses is kinda funny sorry.

This quote is very funny indeed. At this point it's understood that you don't actually read any of the points I make and decide for yourself what you argue against. But yeah the irony is rich here in this quote.
 
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