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2023 NBA Draft Megathread

taevion kinsey, a guy i seem to be alone in really liking as a second round prospect who can stick in the league, didn't measure great, but decent at 6'5" with shoes and an excellent span at 6'10.5". i was hoping drew peterson would have a longer ws. sir'jabari rice with excellent numbers - big time sleeper in the 2nd round as well.
Kinsley didnt stand out at all in the scrimmages.

Peterson looked pretty good, but I just dont see him as a NBA player with his skinny frame and lackluster movement abilities. Extremely smart player though and someone who will probably get a 2-way deal or at least a shot in the NBA.

Rice looked excellent. Definitely looked like a NBA player.
 
Kinsley didnt stand out at all in the scrimmages.

Peterson looked pretty good, but I just dont see him as a NBA player with his skinny frame and lackluster movement abilities. Extremely smart player though and someone who will probably get a 2-way deal or at least a shot in the NBA.

Rice looked excellent. Definitely looked like a NBA player.
i thought if peterson could come in with a 7'+ ws, he could figure out a way to stick in the league.
 
I find it hard to believe he pulled out of the combine for a promise at 28.
What's the difference between like 20 and 28 salarywise? Its like $600k per year... and if its a destination that they like for development then why not? Generally speaking promises aren't given in the teens.

The thinking would go like this... we have a destination that has promised us something we like as a plan B. If the mystery leads a team to taking us in the teens then great... we achieved our draft ceiling with no risk of injury or poor performance.

It also may not be us.
 
Tosan Evbuomwan seems to have been a hot name at the Combine. He didnt really stand out all that much to me, but I looked over some of his stuff after he got the invite.

He played as a face up point center at Princeton, but he has pretty good athleticism that would let him be a 4 at the NBA level. Like a lot of players, if he gets a jumper he's an interesting player.
 
Anything in the first round should be viewed as pretty good for a prospect like Klintman. Just want to avoid falling into round 2 where money isn't guaranteed (well not always).
 
I would guess a team with multiple picks in the first has promised him. We could make that promise and take him at #28... but I wouldn't promise at #16. I wonder if Indiana or Brooklyn made a promise?

I don't think a team would need to promise a pick as high as #16 to keep Klintman in the draft. I could see Brooklyn, who needs size, doing it though.
 
What's the difference between like 20 and 28 salarywise? Its like $600k per year... and if its a destination that they like for development then why not? Generally speaking promises aren't given in the teens.

The thinking would go like this... we have a destination that has promised us something we like as a plan B. If the mystery leads a team to taking us in the teens then great... we achieved our draft ceiling with no risk of injury or poor performance.

It also may not be us.
That's a good point.

But there is little risk in going to the combine to do measurements and testing along with interviews, so safe to say (if the promise is real and not just his camp trying to create a scarcity thing) he got promised by a team that is desirable to be on for a young developing player (which I think Utah would fall under).
 
I have watched a full game (skimmed) of Klintman and the u20 highlights. If you watched him at Wake, even in one of his good games, there's no way he stands out from a skill perspective. He barely has the ball at all, and it mostly a stretch big who hangs out in the corner/crashes the glass. That's about it. He's fine I suppose, but nothing jaw dropping from a physical standpoint and definitely not from a skill standpoint. He's long and fairly active though, does have an NBA body. When you watch him with Sweden he's playing point forward and clearly doing different stuff....but I still find that footage underwhelming. Again, not exactly the most athletic guy and for the most part is making very basic passes. The appeal is that he's doing this at 6'10, but IMO there ain't a chance in hell he does this at the NBA level. Like he may be more skilled than an average 6'10 guy in the league (still a maybe), but the idea that he's this super skilled guy does not add up to me.

From a production standpoint.....yeah he's definitely no Tari Eason. He has numbers that might be fine if he was playing in the Euroleague but he was playing for Wake Forrest. His U20 numbers were obviously better, but still not anything earth shattering and that competition is terrible. Even if the production was earth shattering I would have to see a lot more to be convinced than that one U20 B tournament. If he were one of the younger players in the draft I might feel a little differently, but he's already 20. I also reject this "man of mystery" nonsense. He spent year at an elite basketball HS in the states and played in the NCAA. Lauri didn't go to HS in the US and he wasn't a man of mystery. The reason why he's still a man of mystery is bc he hasn't done much. There are zero players who come out of the ACC that should be consider a man of mystery lol. Being on the bench of an ACC team is not the same kind of mystery as a dimly lit overseas gym.
 
I don't think a team would need to promise a pick as high as #16 to keep Klintman in the draft. I could see Brooklyn, who needs size, doing it though.
Any team with multiple picks are candidates for that type of thing. I think Brooklyn, Indiana and Utah are all candidates. If I was putting money on it though... I would bet its Portland with Mike Schmitz being the brain power behind it. They have the 24th pick.
 
That's a good point.

But there is little risk in going to the combine to do measurements and testing along with interviews, so safe to say (if the promise is real and not just his camp trying to create a scarcity thing) he got promised by a team that is desirable to be on for a young developing player (which I think Utah would fall under).
He's likely in the range of guys they would want to play though... so I agree there is little risk but might worry about the perception there. I think there is likely a promise as the scarcity thing could go so wrong.
 
Thunder at 12 is probably Klintman's ceiling. Seems like a player the Thunder would value. His agent rep's Ousmane Dieng. The Thunder took Dieng a handful of spots ahead of his projected spot.
 
He's likely in the range of guys they would want to play though... so I agree there is little risk but might worry about the perception there. I think there is likely a promise as the scarcity thing could go so wrong.
Tons of players sit out the scrimmages that you'd think should play. Dont think it really matters all that much. Klintman has the hype train behind him right now. He's a prototype player that all NBA teams want.
 
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