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RyGuy said:
Ok but who are you taking at 9 then? Let's assume none of the projected top 8 drop to 9. Do you think Anthony Black or Cason Wallace have more potential than GG Jackson? I understand GG has his flaws. I don't think anyone is really disputing that. But who are you taking there that has more potential?
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Wallace or Black... I think both have tremendous upside and are much more likely to realize that upside.
RyGuy said:
I personally don't want the Jazz to play it safe. Playing it safe leads to nice teams who can maybe make it to the second round of the playoffs but no further. I want a championship. Obviously we all do. Imo the best way to do that is swing for the fences even if we miss. At least we took the chance.
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Wild swings can produce a Giannis every now and again sure... but they also produce busts. Best thing to do is make the best bets where you are in the draft and build. Taking moonshots in yolo fashion just ain't it. There are plenty of prospects with upside. I'm not saying take the senior that will be a career 8th man. Wallace could be a top 10 pg with his two way ability. Black has tremendous upside if the shooting comes around.

RyGuy said:
Ideally I'd love to get Brandon Miller or Cam Whitmore. But that probably isn't happening without overpaying to trade up. Taylor Hendricks probably isn't going to be there at 9 either. If the Jazz stay pat at 9 I think GG Jackson is the one player who offers the most potential. Is he boom or bust? Yes. But that's a risk we should take. I'm sick of nice teams who lose in the second round. Let's raise expectations and shoot higher
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I hear ya... but many of the posters here will say this stuff then flame management later when the guy goes bust because there were good players on the board and they went for the sexy moonshot. For every Giannis there are a pile of Thon Maker's. If GG did the other things on the court well or had tremendous attitude maybe I could get on board but I won't yolo the pick for upside. Sorry.
 
RyGuy said:
Ok but who are you taking at 9 then? Let's assume none of the projected top 8 drop to 9. Do you think Anthony Black or Cason Wallace have more potential than GG Jackson? I understand GG has his flaws. I don't think anyone is really disputing that. But who are you taking there that has more potential?

I personally don't want the Jazz to play it safe in the draft. Playing it safe leads to nice teams who can maybe make it to the second round of the playoffs but no further. I want a championship. Obviously we all do. Imo the best way to do that is swing for the fences even if we miss. At least we took the chance.

Ideally I'd love to get Brandon Miller or Cam Whitmore. But that probably isn't happening without overpaying to trade up. Taylor Hendricks probably isn't going to be there at 9 either. If the Jazz stay pat at 9 I think GG Jackson is the one player who offers the most potential. Is he boom or bust? Yes. But that's a risk we should take. I'm sick of nice teams who lose in the second round. Let's raise expectations and shoot higher
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That’s a really good post. Are you new here? Welcome to the board.
 
I am sorry with 5 trillion picks we need to intentionally pick potential busts sometimes because that is the only way we are going to a high upside all-star.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
Also...we've seen recently that guys with low upside like Desmond Bane can actually be the safe and high upside pick.
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here's what i decided after Bane. draft position of need because BPA is a myth. nobody knows who the best player is, so who you think is the best guy in a position of need and hope for the best.
 
I can't wait for all these YOLO draft folks who are extreme risk takers to come back and complain about how we passed up on Mikal Bridges to take Kevin Knox in a couple years... assuming we take GG over clearly better prospects. Gotta take wild riskzzzzz doe!!!!
 
seattlejazzfan said:
here's what i decided after Bane. draft position of need because BPA is a myth. nobody knows who the best player is, so who you think is the best guy in a position of need and hope for the best.
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You take guys that are good basketball players that have a reasonable path to playing time and you should have more success in the draft than many. Less about position and just upside cuz McDaniels was also a better pick that Udoka.

With GG he was an iso gunner in a unique body... but he wasn't particularly effective, did the other stuff horribly, and was immature multiple times during the season. If he is a completely different player than he showed then it might work out I guess.
 
whatthe said:
I am sorry with 5 trillion picks we need to intentionally pick potential busts sometimes because that is the only way we are going to a high upside all-star.
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Every single pick is a potential bust. And ~50% of them will be. That's what is hard about this, we talk about this top 8 or top 10 and at least four of those guys will not be good players, and it's impossible to know who.

We are in the midst of "Everyone is good" draft season. Meaning we talk floors, ceiling, potential, etc. But we never seriously acknowledge the fact that a lot of these will be journeyman/busts/complete non factor players. And really the most important thing is to not pick those dudes. At that point, it's a win.

Ochai for #10 is the perfect example. "Oh we could never get #10 for Ochai, a team will want the potential of a top 10 pick. That's fine, and I get it. But Ochai has already cleared the biggest rookie hurdle. He is a higher end outcome than the majority of #10 picks, but since he doesn't show 'star potential' It'd be hard to convince a team to trade a lotto pick for him (which is why we should just keep him instead of trading him for a another dice roll.)
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
I can't wait for all these YOLO draft folks who are extreme risk takers to come back and complain about how we passed up on Mikal Bridges to take Kevin Knox in a couple years... assuming we take GG over clearly better prospects. Gotta take wild riskzzzzz doe!!!!
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I'm usually a fan of YOLO drafting, when you have limited resources(and no access to no brainer easily achievable high upside). Now that we have tons and tons of picks I'm a fan of YOLO trades... fill the gap in certainty with volume of picks. Instead of getting 4 low-chance of a hit YOLO picks, try to go get 1 high chance of high upside prospect.
 
Should Kobe Bufkin no longer be on anyone's radar because he was once a young freshman who put up bad stats?
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Should Kobe Bufkin no longer be on anyone's radar because he was once a young freshman who put up bad stats?
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No... but we have the second year data... because one guy developed it does not mean another will. Should we take Emoni at #9?
 
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