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2024-2025 Tank Race

I think this is part of their plan. I think they determined at the deadline that they wouldn’t fall out of the top-3 odds and that it would be best for whoever they draft to land in a spot with some seriously seasoned but still good vets already on the upswing.

Nothing else really makes much sense.
Good explanation. They know that they will have the best odds at Flagg now basically no matter what so might as well see what their guys can do.
 
I'm talking about regret, not making a bad decision in the moment.

I'm talking about regret, not making a bad decision in the moment.
Either way it is a silly post. Once you get to a certain point of maturity, you understand that 1. regret does nothing but continuous mental harm and 2. there are two types of regret. Where you had a choice and made the “wrong” one (you had actual control and data points) and the other where you made a choice and later on and you found out the other was not necessarily the right choice but led to something after the fact that was impossible to predict at the time of the original choice. That’s just life and you are a weak person if you ever regret that for more than a moment. So, I don’t think Hardy is a mentally weak person and no he did not regret that for more than a day.
 
Washington is 6-4 in their last 10. This is wild.
The trades really helped them get winning players (even though they were "selling"). Plus their rookies have really come into their own lately. And, they don't seem to be purposely sitting guys much these days.
 
This season has been wildly successful from a tanking perspective. A masterclass. Maybe the most egregious tank ever done in NBA history (probably wrong but IDK)
A season or two from Philly and OKC probably rival what we've don this year. (Remember when the Thunder basically shut down Shai two years in a row after midseason or so?)
 
A season or two from Philly and OKC probably rival what we've don this year. (Remember when the Thunder basically shut down Shai two years in a row after midseason or so?)

... We also have done that with our max player?

The thing that makes the Jazz tank much weirder is just the sheer number of guys we're resting. The 2020-2021 Thunder were the most embarrassing tank in NBA history because they rested two guys. The Jazz are resting 6.
 
What kind of asset would it take for OKC to just give us next years pick back. Basically a 8+ pick in first round value. Surely we have some young player who we can’t find time for who they would take for that deal?

I want to get Flagg and just go for it next year. I want Hardy to finally be told winning is now your only priority, go for it. One more year of hedging or outright tanking after securing a top asset this year does not appeal to me. If we end up sucking, fine. But everything is so much easier if we just own our pick outright and I’d give something up to make that happen.
 
What kind of asset would it take for OKC to just give us next years pick back. Basically a 8+ pick in first round value. Surely we have some young player who we can’t find time for who they would take for that deal?

I want to get Flagg and just go for it next year. I want Hardy to finally be told winning is now your only priority, go for it. One more year of hedging or outright tanking after securing a top asset this year does not appeal to me. If we end up sucking, fine. But everything is so much easier if we just own our pick outright and I’d give something up to make that happen.
The ‘26 pick deserves its own thread. But it is worth mentioning that it has double swap rights attached to it that OKC doesn’t have. There is a non-zero chance that one of those swaps ends up as a top-4 lottery pick and we will not be able to get the swap because OUR pick is first owed to OKC if it’s 9+ and would not be eligible to swap.

I think what might be in the deal zone is giving them the LA pick or something like that. I doubt any of our marginal prospects are worth **** to them and they have an even greater roster crunch than we do.
 
I mean, it depends on how good they are?

If Flagg is as good as Jayson Tatum and AJ is as good as like, I don't know, prime Paul George, that could be very good, but it's reallllly hard to project how good AJ will be with no college footage or stats.
I could see Kawhi Leonard and Paul George
 
Since changing to the lottery format, does anyone know how often the team with the worst record got the first pick. I was hoping that the Jazz would stay at 3. Which lotto ranking has move up to get the number 1 pick? Is the 5th pick the lowest the worst record team can drop?
 
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