2024-25 Trade Rumors Thread

[KqWIN]

Also Dlo provides a lot of what they are missing as far as a creator. I don't think they understand the assignment.

They do, just easier said than done to get rid of good talent methinks.

DLO will be about as good or maybe even better than Shroeder. Perfect situation for him to cleanup on bad east teams as a key guy. I'd ship him off to ORL right away if I were them.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

They do, just easier said than done to get rid of good talent methinks.

DLO will be about as good or maybe even better than Shroeder. Perfect situation for him to cleanup on bad east teams as a key guy. I'd ship him off to ORL right away if I were them.

You just take the Memphis deal. It’s pretty easy. Don’t add the thing you really need especially if it’s attached to a player with a horrible rep and big enough contract that it isn’t easy to move… unless you have a deal lined up. Is that Obi thing real or nah.

 

[jazznik]

LOL... simply look at how we perform when he is on the court versus off of it.

Of course we perform better with him. Because when he is off his place is taken by Keyonte, Clarkson, Cody or Juzang - and they are even worse than Sexton. But other teams (especially good ones) tend to have somewhat competent guards.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Of course we perform better with him. Because when he is off his place is taken by Keyonte, Clarkson, Cody or Juzang - and they are even worse than Sexton. But other teams (especially good ones) tend to have somewhat competent guards.

lol yes and the chances that the other guards we get that in a trade would be worse than Sexton.

 

[jazznik]

lol yes and the chances that the other guards we get that in a trade would be worse than Sexton.


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The questions is what good teams 1. Does not have good guards AND is good enough defensively to cover for Sexton's defensive struggles AND has draft capital AND Can absorb Sexton's contract?

How many teams do you have in this group?

 

[Tremendous Upside]

The point is that there's all kinds of trade scenarios floating around here where the main argument is "Sexton could really help this team that's trying to win!"

And that's just extremely unlikely. For one thing, Collin playing major minutes is a big reason the Jazz defense is the worst in the league. GMs are not blind.

As I've been saying all along, Sexton does have a role in this league where he can probably be a positive – a bucket-getting sparkplug off the bench on a very short leash. The problem is that he doesn't see himself that way, and no coach needs that kind of headache on a winning team.

 

[Thee Idiotic Minivan K]

For one thing, Collin playing major minutes is a big reason the Jazz defense is the worst in the league.

So it’s just Sexton and not that every player on this team but Kessler especially the guards that all are turnstiles on defense? But it’s just Sexton?

 

[Thee Idiotic Minivan K]

The point is that there's all kinds of trade scenarios floating around here where the main argument is "Sexton could really help this team that's trying to win!"

And that's just extremely unlikely. For one thing, Collin playing major minutes is a big reason the Jazz defense is the worst in the league. GMs are not blind.

As I've been saying all along, Sexton does have a role in this league where he can probably be a positive – a bucket-getting sparkplug off the bench on a very short leash. The problem is that he doesn't see himself that way, and no coach needs that kind of headache on a winning team.

This team was a ****** defense long before Sexton got here.

 

[Rubashov]

What the **** on this team has trade value? Our Finish lad is at best worth a protected first, the rest aren't worth their weight in ****.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

The questions is what good teams 1. Does not have good guards AND is good enough defensively to cover for Sexton's defensive struggles AND has draft capital AND Can absorb Sexton's contract?

How many teams do you have in this group?

No the question was...

Why would he trade Sexton, a negative player and one of the very worst defenders in the entire league?

The answer is in part because he helps US win games over what we have.

To your second question the Spurs would LOVE to have a guy like Sexton. They are relying on CP3, Vassell, Keldon Johnson to create advantages off the dribble and it is not going well. Sexton would eat with that squad especially since Victor has so much gravity at the rim and on the perimeter. They would be able to cover for his defensive issues. Go watch them play any team with a top 15 defense and watch their guard creation.

There are many teams that could use Sexton in lesser roles. They don't have to absorb Sexton's contract. Its a pretty easy match. There may only be like 5-8 teams that make sense for Sexton but it only takes 1. And I mean since he's such a loser player why would they need draft capital to trade for him?

I love when posters act like there are 240 perfect NBA players out there and if a guy has a flaw he's not a winning player... in spite of copious amounts of evidence that they do some things at a very high level.

 

[jom2003]

The questions is what good teams 1. Does not have good guards AND is good enough defensively to cover for Sexton's defensive struggles AND has draft capital AND Can absorb Sexton's contract?

How many teams do you have in this group?

Houston AND Houston AND Houston

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

For Sexton- SA, Lakers, Clips, Magic, Pacers all fit imo and have the ability to do it. If Kings did move Fox I could see them adding Collin. Promote Monk and add Sexton.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Sexton to SA makes so much sense. They have a bunch of good second rounders and some ability to provide other non-first draft comp that could be first round or better value.

The trade I keep coming back to is Sexton for Zach Collins and the Charlotte first the own (it is lotto protected this year then turns into seconds in 26 and 27), the Utah second rounder they own in 2026, and a swap with Cleveland's first for the lesser of the SA first this year or Atlanta first this year lotto protected and if the swap doesn't happen we get another second.

Even if you can't convince them to do the swap I think doing it for the equivalent of 5-6 good second round picks (they own future seconds from NOP, Denver, and a bunch of other teams) makes sense since we don't have a lot of seconds. We "lose" this trade and its tremendous value for SA but it provides us a different type of draft asset we don't have and they have an abundance of... collecting good seconds along the way pays off for them.

They also may be waiting on Fox but that would happen this summer and Sexton would be more useful than the picks and Collins as ballast as the Kings don't want to take a step back. Sexton/Johnson/firsts could go back.

Finally Sexton could be a great fit with Castle and Wemby. Like they have the pieces to make that work and limit the downside. It just makes so much sense to me.

 

[NUMBERICA]

Sexton to SA makes so much sense. They have a bunch of good second rounders and some ability to provide other non-first draft comp that could be first round or better value.

The trade I keep coming back to is Sexton for Zach Collins and the Charlotte first the own (it is lotto protected this year then turns into seconds in 26 and 27), the Utah second rounder they own in 2026, and a swap with Cleveland's first for the lesser of the SA first this year or Atlanta first this year lotto protected and if the swap doesn't happen we get another second.

Even if you can't convince them to do the swap I think doing it for the equivalent of 5-6 good second round picks (they own future seconds from NOP, Denver, and a bunch of other teams) makes sense since we don't have a lot of seconds. We "lose" this trade and its tremendous value for SA but it provides us a different type of draft asset we don't have and they have an abundance of... collecting good seconds along the way pays off for them.

They also may be waiting on Fox but that would happen this summer and Sexton would be more useful than the picks and Collins as ballast as the Kings don't want to take a step back. Sexton/Johnson/firsts could go back.

Finally Sexton could be a great fit with Castle and Wemby. Like they have the pieces to make that work and limit the downside. It just makes so much sense to me.

I think you could maybe even add in John Collins for Barnes/Jones to get the Chicago pick (or something insanely convoluted that equates that value)?

 

[KqWIN]

I would trade Sexton for the best thing that's available right now and not be picky about it.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

I would trade Sexton for the best thing that's available right now and not be picky about it.

Probably time. I am a big fan of his and enjoy the Sexton experience but we are neutering his next contract value. We have to accept we are going to lose the trade. Give me a solid offer (I can't imagine SA and Orl wouldn't provide at least 3-4 second rounder type value).

 

[NUMBERICA]

Probably time. I am a big fan of his and enjoy the Sexton experience but we are neutering his next contract value. We have to accept we are going to lose the trade. Give me a solid offer (I can't imagine SA and Orl wouldn't provide at least 3-4 second rounder type value).

Top-40 2nds.

 

[Tremendous Upside]

The answer is in part because he helps US win games over what we have.

The fact that he's better than guys like Cody and Collier (on offense) hardly makes him a trade asset. Playing losing NBA basketball is the story of Sexton's career. He can have hot streaks, but so can anyone in this league. People can dream up as many fantasy trades as they want, but Collin isn't going anywhere – unless Ainge is willing to take an L and basically gives him away. Even then, it's unlikely.

Sexton didn't have a market after his career season, which is the closest he's come to winning basketball... so he damn sure doesn't have a market now.

Sexton would eat with that squad especially since Victor has so much gravity at the rim and on the perimeter.

My guy, are you aware that much of Sexton's scoring on THIS team is made possible by Lauri standing way out on the perimeter, off the ball, with a defender surgically attached to his hip at all times? We're playing a lot of 4 on 4 and that's a dream scenario for a tiny jitterbug guard like Sexton.

I love when posters act like there are 240 perfect NBA players out there and if a guy has a flaw he's not a winning player... in spite of copious amounts of evidence that they do some things at a very high level.

Obviously he does some things at a high level. That was never the point.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

The fact that he's better than guys like Cody and Collier (on offense) hardly makes him a trade asset. Playing losing NBA basketball is the story of Sexton's career. He can have hot streaks, but so can anyone in this league. People can dream up as many fantasy trades as they want, but Collin isn't going anywhere – unless Ainge is willing to take an L and basically gives him away. Even then, it's unlikely.

Sexton didn't have a market after his career season, which is the closest he's come to winning basketball... so he damn sure doesn't have a market now.

Again maybe you are just a ppg simp or don't know ball but that year that he racked up big stats by being completely selfish on a bad team was not his best year as far as being a winning player. You also don't know what his market was. Maybe they were shopping him but wanted a lot for him. Calling that the season he came closest to playing winning basketball is truly hilarious. He has gotten more efficient and has modified his game so he eats within the system rather than being the system. He's made himself one of the best shooters in the league and now matches that with his speed. He has improved greatly.

His market wasn't great the following year when he was a free agent if that is what you mean... but there was a serious knee injury and there were more questions about his game. Hilarious you think Ainge couldn't give him away but go on and continue with your hatred.

My guy, are you aware that much of Sexton's scoring on THIS team is made possible by Lauri standing way out on the perimeter, off the ball, with a defender surgically attached to his hip at all times? We're playing a lot of 4 on 4 and that's a dream scenario for a tiny jitterbug guard like Sexton.

My guy... you are aware that Lauri is very good but just the offensive on/off splits have Sexton at +9.3 and Lauri at +3.3. While I am sure Lauri is helpful Collin doesn't need him to be successful and Wemby has as much or more gravity than Lauri does... while also being a great passer. He would eat.

Obviously he does some things at a high level. That was never the point.

 

[KqWIN]

Me personally, I don’t even care to discuss how “good” Sexton is. It doesn’t really matter how we feel, his perception is what it is and the Jazz did not give him the opportunity to improve. Maybe I’m wrong, it can only be proven by him being traded for something good…but the idea of Sexton being beyond what he currently is (good backup/needs upgrade if he’s a starter) isn’t even something I consider anymore. That possibility has been buried.