2024 NBA Draft Mega Thread

[whatthe]

Lower end picks you worry about fit more. Top picks it is the other way around.

 

[Bawse Dawg]

Are you talking about fit or overlap?

Fit you absolutely have to worry about, since if you draft a guy who is a terrible fit you also put that drafted player in a bad position both in terms of getting minutes from Hardy and being successful on the court in those minutes.

Overlap you cannot worry about too much, as long as you dont develop massive logjams. Nothing wrong with some healthy competition.

I mean, if you don't wanna take Dillingham that's fine. But even that would be more about what I think he can (or can't) be in the league. And less because I think he would be redundant with Sexton or Clarkson, who we have no clue if they will even be here.

If there was a perfect Lauri clone in this draft I'd take that player #1 still.

But really I am alluding to the talk about Sheppard not fitting in with our roster. I asked for clarification yesterday and didn't see anything. On top of the fact that not drafting Sheppard because of our current roster is a really stupid decision. I still have no idea what is meant when people say he's not a good fit, there is overlap, etc. with the current roster. Who the hell is like Sheppard on the current roster? We have a surplus of perimeter defense and shooting or something?

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Like we can probably fit another Taylor Hendricks or Keyonte esque player on the team, but should we? That's were overlap is a concern to me. You want your roster to be versatile and if you have multiple guys who have the same strengths/weaknesses you are going to be an easier matchup for opponents.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

I mean, if you don't wanna take Dillingham that's fine. But even that would be more about what I think he can (or can't) be in the league. And less because I think he would be redundant with Sexton or Clarkson, who we have no clue if they will even be here.

If there was a perfect Lauri clone in this draft I'd take that player #1 still.

But really I am alluding to the talk about Sheppard not fitting in with our roster. I asked for clarification yesterday and didn't see anything. On top of the fact that not drafting Sheppard because of our current roster is a really stupid decision. I still have no idea what is meant when people say he's not a good fit, there is overlap, etc. with the current roster. Who the hell is like Sheppard on the current roster? We have a surplus of perimeter defense and shooting or somethi

The only clearly objective argument against drafting Shep/Dillingham is size. You just don't want too many of those guys on one team. Keyonte is on the border of size next to him being a concern and Sexton definitely is.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Not drafting someone based fit with the current Jazz roster is a terrible way to approach this draft. There is no nucleus to build around. Acquire. Talent.

Yeah and the more I look at the draft the more I am thinking that if we landed 2-4 and got a good offer to move back to 6-9 I would be inclined to take that offer.

With Topic, Dilly, Clingan, Sarr I think the bar has to be a little higher to draft them over the wings and Shep (who I think fits with a lot of different types of players). Fit/role I think with those guys mean you need to really believe in them. With true centers and ball in hand guys that might be defensive liabilities I think the talent level just has to be higher if you are drafting over the wings that should fit with anyone you get or draft in the next few years. You aren't drafting for fit per se... you are drafting for future flexibility.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Like you just can't have a defense at the quality level of the Wolves without elite size across the board. Conley is a rare exception because of insanely high IQ and exceptional wingspan to height ratio. And to make up for Conley everyone else is at elite length/size measurements

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Like Beal fits on the Suns, but the overlap is heavy and it makes him essentially wasted. His value is essentially the same as Grayson Allen's

 

[Bawse Dawg]

The only clearly objective argument against drafting Shep/Dillingham is size. You just don't want too many of those guys on one team. Keyonte is on the border of size next to him being a concern and Sexton definitely is.

Admittedly, I thought he was a bit more than 6'3". And Keyonte being 6'4" according to Google is hard to believe honestly. Measurements seem more unreliable than ever. I'd love a few more inches on Sheppard in that case. But a 6'4" (if true) and 6'3" backcourt I think is okay. But you have helped me understand the argument a bit better, so thanks.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

IDK if the Jazz will ever become an elite D, but Lauri/Hendricks/Walker/Keyonte can be part of a high level defense if you insert a Steph Castle type (assuming he can raise his game to get starter minutes over time).

 

[Bawse Dawg]

Like Beal fits on the Suns, but the overlap is heavy and it makes him essentially wasted. His value is essentially the same as Grayson Allen's

Point taken. But completely opposite end of the spectrum of where the teams are in their timelines. Jazz are too early on to care that much about this stuff imo. Imagine not taking a better player because he overlapped a bit with a mediocre player already on the roster.

Getting the best players should be priority 1, 2, & 3 for the Jazz right now.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

I mean, if you don't wanna take Dillingham that's fine. But even that would be more about what I think he can (or can't) be in the league. And less because I think he would be redundant with Sexton or Clarkson, who we have no clue if they will even be here.

If there was a perfect Lauri clone in this draft I'd take that player #1 still.

But really I am alluding to the talk about Sheppard not fitting in with our roster. I asked for clarification yesterday and didn't see anything. On top of the fact that not drafting Sheppard because of our current roster is a really stupid decision. I still have no idea what is meant when people say he's not a good fit, there is overlap, etc. with the current roster. Who the hell is like Sheppard on the current roster? We have a surplus of perimeter defense and shooting or something?

The more I look at our roster... the more I'm convinced you consider this a blank slate. If you are drafting Dilly or Topic the evaluation isn't necessarily do they fit with Key... its are they talented enough to be primary ball handlers. I think with Shep his game should fit well enough with a primary ball handler that he could still get 28-34 minutes a night and you may just have to finesse the rotation a bit if your primary offensive engine is not over 6-4.5".

I think you want to avoid having two Walker Kessler's or two Collin Sexton's if there are other good options on the board... if not then go ahead and double up on that I guess.

I think you want to avoid a Magic situation though. Like why are they drafting Anthony Black with their current group of shooters they are building around.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Point taken. But completely opposite end of the spectrum of where the teams are in their timelines. Jazz are too early on to care that much about this stuff imo. Imagine not taking a better player because he overlapped a bit with a mediocre player already on the roster.

Getting the best players should be priority 1, 2, & 3 for the Jazz right now.

We need to avoid a Blazers Telfair Chris Paul situation. Year's ago the Blazers landed 3rd but didn't want Deron or CP3 because they had just drafted Sebastian Telfair. So they traded back with us... selected Martell Webster and then had the amazing Telfair/Webster backcourt instead of D-Will or CP. Whoopsy.