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stitches said:
Izan Almansa has been better player than Sarr at any level in any competition. Now, that doesn't automatically mean he will be better NBA player, but still... some food for thought...
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There’s a lot of weird stuff like that in this draft. I think Melvin Ajinca, for example, was wayyyy better than Risacher and Sarr at the U19 World Cup.

I think I’m being convinced on Sarr (or less convinced on everyone else) but it’s a little alarming when he really hasn’t stood out in any competition.
 
We make mountains out of molehills out of the comparison discussions. Is Edey a Boban clone? Of course not, but for all intents and purposes they would be playing a similar role with similar strengths and question marks. Maybe Edey is more athletic and that allows him to answer those questions and play more. Doesn’t make Boban an invalid reference point.
 
KqWIN said:
We make mountains out of molehills out of the comparison discussions. Is Edey a Boban clone? Of course not, but for all intents and purposes they would be playing a similar role with similar strengths and question marks. Maybe Edey is more athletic and that allows him to answer those questions and play more. Doesn’t make Boban an invalid reference point.
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Boban is freaking amazing comp. I'm not even necessarily saying he will have the exact same success in the league. But purely as a style of play, strengths, weaknesses/question marks... they are really similar players. And again, people are acting like Boban is some scrub... he's made a pretty good career in the league... he's been in the NBA for 8-9 years. Hell even for lottery picks the average NBA career is probably shorter than that.
 
stitches said:
Boban is freaking amazing comp. I'm not even necessarily saying he will have the exact same success in the league. But purely as a style of play, strengths, weaknesses/question marks... they are really similar players. And again, people are acting like Boban is some scrub... he's made a pretty good career in the league... he's been in the NBA for 8-9 years. Hell even for lottery picks the average NBA career is probably shorter than that.
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It's a terrible comp. Edey is dunking an incredible amount. Dunking is not easier in college, it's harder due to the limited spacing. Boban wouldn't average 1/3rd the dunks Edey has this year in the same minutes. I also don't think k Boban could play 30 mpg at any level and be as dominant as Edey

Boban isn't a scrub, but he isn't on Edeys level at any facet. Also factor in Edey first picked up a basketball at age 15.
 
KqWIN said:
We make mountains out of molehills out of the comparison discussions. Is Edey a Boban clone? Of course not, but for all intents and purposes they would be playing a similar role with similar strengths and question marks. Maybe Edey is more athletic and that allows him to answer those questions and play more. Doesn’t make Boban an invalid reference point.
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This is why comps are terrible and only used by the most casual enjoyers of drafting. This is the kind of thinking that makes up pass up on obvious talents because the limited comparison pool leads you down the wrong evaluation path
 
Another reason people are too low on Edey is the bias towards thinking he is only good because of his height when the reality is we have never seen a post player as talented as he is at his size.

People think "oh he is just dominating because he is big and if anyone was as big as him they would do the same thing". Wrong, he's a special talent.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
It's a terrible comp. Edey is dunking an incredible amount. Dunking is not easier in college, it's harder due to the limited spacing. Boban wouldn't average 1/3rd the dunks Edey has this year in the same minutes. I also don't think k Boban could play 30 mpg at any level and be as dominant as Edey

Boban isn't a scrub, but he isn't on Edeys level at any facet. Also factor in Edey first picked up a basketball at age 15.
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It is on the basis of exactly what Stiches said. Purely as a style of play, strengths, weaknesses/question marks... they are really similar players. I don't think it's "for the casuals" to think about similar types of players have performed and what may be different between the two players. If you noticed, he explicitly said that he's not saying that they will have the same career path.

Edey dunks more, so what? Again, making mountains out of molehills. Also, what you said about it being harder to dunk in college isn't necessarily true for bigs. There are 4 centers drafted in the first round of the last two seasons and only 1 of them dunked at a higher rate in the pros than in college. Boban also played 27 MPG in the euroleague and was one of, if not the most productive in the euroleague. These differences are so minor compared to the bigger picture.

A casual will see comparisons as 1:1 and nitpick them to the death. A more nuanced person will be able to contextualize what they're seeing and consider what might work better, worse, or similarly. You're too concerned with saying that Edey is better than Boban you're missing the point.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
It's a terrible comp. Edey is dunking an incredible amount. Dunking is not easier in college, it's harder due to the limited spacing. Boban wouldn't average 1/3rd the dunks Edey has this year in the same minutes. I also don't think k Boban could play 30 mpg at any level and be as dominant as Edey

Boban isn't a scrub, but he isn't on Edeys level at any facet. Also factor in Edey first picked up a basketball at age 15.
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I don't know...

On one hand I believe that NBA paint defenders are allowed to be more physical in the NBA. In the NCAA if a guy gets touched in the paint they are blowing the whistle. That's been a huge advantage of Edey's in college that I think goes away in the NBA.

On the other hand I'm watching a guy like TJD dominate the Rockets last night because they didn't have anyone big enough to defend the paint against him. As more teams continue to move away from traditional bigs it could be a huge benefit to have a guy that can dominate inside.
 
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