Ok, sounds like we’re on the same page. Still wondering where people are saying it’s for development tho.If you defend their minutes because it's for development, I'd disagree with you and that's why I mentioned it. If you're saying that Hardy is playing them because he's wired to win and not necessarily for development, I'd agree with you. Those aren't competing ideas. Ironically, the ideas you and TU have brought up compete with each other more than they do my own post.