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29 Minutes with Kevin O'Connor

So next time our team sucks and we're disappointed the team can't make any moves, just take a look around and point that finger back at yourselves because the JazzFanz populace has, once again, thwarted genius on the part of KOC.

Honestly, it's amazing that over the years the FO has insinuated how clueless the fans are to how things run, but now he turns around to further insinuate that those same ignorant fans and radio idiots are handcuffing his master plans?
 
Don't most teams leak info about trades.
They know the media will report it immediately.
Have to think they even do it on purpose for various reasons.
How come KOC doesn't point the finger at all teams.
 
infection said:
So next time our team sucks and we're disappointed the team can't make any moves, just take a look around and point that finger back at yourselves because the JazzFanz populace has, once again, thwarted genius on the part of KOC.

Honestly, it's amazing that over the years the FO has insinuated how clueless the fans are to how things run, but now he turns around to further insinuate that those same ignorant fans and radio idiots are handcuffing his master plans?
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Just listened to it. I don't think he was insinuating anything about fans in particular. I actually thought it was a pretty good interview. As for the efficiency argument, if he really buys into points per shot as much as he said (not a great stat, albeit better than raw FG%), there's no way he thinks Al is a really good player. He had some positive things to say about Gordo, Demarre and Paul, especially in regard to adding to their respective games.

The best part of the interview was the talk about the cap, and how the Jazz might be in a really good position if they save their cap space through to next season's trade deadline. This was complemented by the talk of not making a trade where you take on salary that makes future deals impossible. If this is the tack the Jazz are taking, they're dong the right thing. I think it's unlikely they make a deal this season that adds salary next season unless they're blown away. Further, I think it's unlikely they sign mediocre players to long deals this summer that would hurt their flexibility when teams are scrambling to get under the LT line next season. Maybe I'm only hearing what I want to hear, but the interview certainly reminded me of how good the Jazz FO has been and likely will continue to be.
 
GVC said:
The best part of the interview was the talk about the cap, and how the Jazz might be in a really good position if they save their cap space through to next season's trade deadline.
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Bi GAl Jefferson!
 
GVC said:
The best part of the interview was the talk about the cap, and how the Jazz might be in a really good position if they save their cap space through to next season's trade deadline. This was complemented by the talk of not making a trade where you take on salary that makes future deals impossible. If this is the tack the Jazz are taking, they're dong the right thing. I think it's unlikely they make a deal this season that adds salary next season unless they're blown away. Further, I think it's unlikely they sign mediocre players to long deals this summer that would hurt their flexibility when teams are scrambling to get under the LT line next season. Maybe I'm only hearing what I want to hear, but the interview certainly reminded me of how good the Jazz FO has been and likely will continue to be.
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When I heard that I thought that the one type of deal the Jazz might do would be trade an expiring deal, such as Al, for a deal that expires next season. Basically renting a guy for one season so that they have the flexibility of an expiring next trade deadline.

But if the CBA will allow the team to just go into the next season with a bunch of cap space then the Jazz might just let Al walk, and go into next season with a small payroll. Then they could pull all kinds of deals next year and take back whatever they wanted.

Lots of options.
 
mellow said:
But if the CBA will allow the team to just go into the next season with a bunch of cap space...
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It will. A team could have 13 rookie minimum players for a whole season. They'd just have to pay the balance of 90% of the cap to those players at the end of the season.
 
^What a way to make rookie scale contracts love the organization too. Maybe they'd even pay it forward by taking a slightly lower salary in order to hunt championships.

KOC brings the team in after the trade deadline for a meeting and explains they only have $36mm in payroll but must spend $50mm, so unfortunately each player will get a $1mm bonus this season, or in other words a 30% raise for Gordon Hayward.
 
GVC said:
The best part of the interview was the talk about the cap, and how the Jazz might be in a really good position if they save their cap space through to next season's trade deadline. This was complemented by the talk of not making a trade where you take on salary that makes future deals impossible. If this is the tack the Jazz are taking, they're dong the right thing. I think it's unlikely they make a deal this season that adds salary next season unless they're blown away. Further, I think it's unlikely they sign mediocre players to long deals this summer that would hurt their flexibility when teams are scrambling to get under the LT line next season. Maybe I'm only hearing what I want to hear, but the interview certainly reminded me of how good the Jazz FO has been and likely will continue to be.
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This argument can be used EVERY year. Teams will want to dump some salaries this season; others will want to shed payroll next year and the year after. Each time, those teams will want to trade bad contracts. A bad contract is the price for getting a decent prospect or picks. OKC won't be calling around asking someone to take Durant off their hands. Chicago won't be asking Utah to take Rose off their hands. KOC either needs to go the Boozer/Okur route - i.e. overpaying in free agency for an underutilized young player, or he needs to be willing to take on a veteran on the downside with a few years left on his contract AND getting a young player or high picks along with that contract.

I don't fault him for taking a chance with Jefferson. Al was worth a shot. But what Utah should really focus on is helping a crappy team shed salary. Trade them an expiring (Al or Paul) + our two first round picks for a vet contract plus their lottery pick. Do something to move up in the draft, or get prospects. Instead, it's likely KOC will just keep talking about how the Jazz are perfectly poised to make trades at the deadline. And each deadline will pass with the same excuse of the Jazz wanting to make the team better, but not finding any deal they really liked.
 
MoTown16 said:
This argument can be used EVERY year
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13/14 is the first year of the new, more punitive luxury tax. As such, this strategy may be more beneficial this coming season than in any other recent season, especially if the cap falls (it was guaranteed to be at least $58mm the last two seasons, and since it was exactly that number, it stands to reason that the cap calculation based on BRI was below that number).
 
My new favorite saying: Flexibility can't pass, shoot or dribble.

Someday KOC is going to have to cash in that flexibility for some players.
 
mellow said:
My new favorite saying: Flexibility can't pass, shoot or dribble.

Someday KOC is going to have to cash in that flexibility for some players.
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The next 12 1/2 months should be pretty interesting in Jazz land.
 
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