I thought that sounded too coherent to be MTG.By the way, this is actually text from Hitler's first Radio address. I literally just changed references to Nazis to Christian nationalists.
I thought that sounded too coherent to be MTG.By the way, this is actually text from Hitler's first Radio address. I literally just changed references to Nazis to Christian nationalists.
Yeah but it's a little unnerving how well it fit.I thought that sounded too coherent to be MTG.
Trump threw open the doors to Christian nationalism….
View: https://www.cnn.com/videos/media/2022/07/31/katherine-stewart-christian-nationalism-donald-trump-rs-vpx.cnn
Trump threw open the doors to Christian nationalism….
View: https://www.cnn.com/videos/media/2022/07/31/katherine-stewart-christian-nationalism-donald-trump-rs-vpx.cnn
“Frankly, we really don’t need a lot law if we’re people of morality,” Huckabee continued. “There are only 10 basic laws that we need. If you think about it, the Ten Commandments cover it all. There’s no need for an 11th. Everything that we need in life is covered in the 10. And the reason that law gets more complicated is because we try to figure out clever ways around those 10.”
Huckabee, an ordained Southern Baptist minister and former pastor, took things a step further later in his 10-minute “testimony.”
“I hope that you know Jesus Christ personally,” he said. “I hope that he is in your life, in your heart, because to the degree to which he rules you and governs you, you need less and less of man’s law to tell you how to live. And that is what our founding fathers understood, and we must understand.”
Rick Santorum declared his belief that the laws in our country must “comport” with God’s law. Santorum also argued in opposition to marriage equality, that our nation’s values “are based on Biblical truth… And, those truths don’t change just because people’s attitudes may change.”
Today, about half of Americans (49%) say the Bible should have at least “some” influence on U.S. laws, including nearly a quarter (23%) who say it should have “a great deal” of influence, according to a recent Pew Research Center survey. Among U.S. Christians, two-thirds (68%) want the Bible to influence U.S. laws…
When the Bible and the will of the people conflict, which should have more influence on U.S. laws?The more common answer to this question is that the Bible should take priority over the will of the people. This view is expressed by more than a quarter of all Americans (28%).
Christianity, as it developed in the United States, and affected our identity, I think it’s a unique thing, and worthy of study on so many levels.I’m curious why you think it’s taken the media so long to recognize the danger this movement poses for American democracy? It’s not like it’s new. Mike Huckabee’s campaign in 2008 was far more explicit with his embrace with Christian nationalism than Trumps (perhaps that’s why Trump won and Huckabee and Santorum didn’t?)
Santorum:
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Huckabee Elevates Ten Commandments Above Secular Laws
If everyone obeyed the Ten Commandments and New Testament, there would be less need for laws to be enforced by the government, Republican presidentialgoodfaithmedia.org
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The Conservative Crusade For Christian Sharia Law
It’s not just the fringe anymore. Mainstream conservatives are trying to bring America’s laws into agreement with ‘God’s law.’www.thedailybeast.com
It’s not like they’re screaming into the void. This should horrify most people on this website:
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Half of Americans say Bible should influence U.S. laws, including 28% who favor it over the will of the people
About half of Americans say the Bible should have at least “some” influence on U.S. laws; 23% say it should have “a great deal” of influence.www.pewresearch.org
Nationalism seems to run so afoul of real biblical Christianity as to be a parody of it. How in the ****ing hell can they say that they will force this on everyone while also loving their neighbor as themselves. Condemn everyone to hell, but forgive them for they know not what they do. The way Christianity has been bastardized and commercialized and every other -ized is just sickening in so many ways. Jesus would in no way recognize any of this as any kind of religion he espoused. I am sure he would liken this kind of thing far more to the money-lenders in the temple than the widow and her mite. Just disgusting how they use this all for political and financial gain, and for NO OTHER REASON. It is like we are heading into the crusades all over again. How long until the inquisition? What a joke, a blasphemous and sacrilegious joke.Christianity, as it developed in the United States, and affected our identity, I think it’s a unique thing, and worthy of study on so many levels.
Christian nationalism could never be my cup of tea. But it’s not hard to see it as a potent motivating myth. I think it carry’s a degree of potential danger, if it’s foundation is built on a myth, and spits out nuts like this:
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The Rapture and the Real World: Mike Pompeo Blends Beliefs and Policy (Published 2019)
America’s top diplomat stands out in the Trump administration for brazenly inserting his evangelical Christian beliefs into discussions of foreign policy.www.nytimes.com
I saved this three part series, from early in Trump’s term. Any lessons extend beyond Trump, since this merger of faith and nation is endemic here.
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I think we have to look at it through a different lens. Cuz you’re right, what these “Christians” want to do is antithetical to what most could consider to be mainstream Christian beliefs. There certainly are nutcakes who think the forcing everyone to be Christian to quicken the rapture would be good. But I don’t think most are into that.Nationalism seems to run so afoul of real biblical Christianity as to be a parody of it. How in the ****ing hell can they say that they will force this on everyone while also loving their neighbor as themselves. Condemn everyone to hell, but forgive them for they know not what they do. The way Christianity has been bastardized and commercialized and every other -ized is just sickening in so many ways. Jesus would in no way recognize any of this as any kind of religion he espoused. I am sure he would liken this kind of thing far more to the money-lenders in the temple than the widow and her mite. Just disgusting how they use this all for political and financial gain, and for NO OTHER REASON. It is like we are heading into the crusades all over again. How long until the inquisition? What a joke, a blasphemous and sacrilegious joke.
Americanized Christianity seems more like a disease than a meaningful and fulfilling faith to me. Talk about leading astray. It’s an illness. And it bears watching.Nationalism seems to run so afoul of real biblical Christianity as to be a parody of it. How in the ****ing hell can they say that they will force this on everyone while also loving their neighbor as themselves. Condemn everyone to hell, but forgive them for they know not what they do. The way Christianity has been bastardized and commercialized and every other -ized is just sickening in so many ways. Jesus would in no way recognize any of this as any kind of religion he espoused. I am sure he would liken this kind of thing far more to the money-lenders in the temple than the widow and her mite. Just disgusting how they use this all for political and financial gain, and for NO OTHER REASON. It is like we are heading into the crusades all over again. How long until the inquisition? What a joke, a blasphemous and sacrilegious joke.
To be honest it is starting to take on divisions similar to Islam, imo. There is the majority view, that is a peaceful religion that brings a lot of people happiness, preaches doing good to your fellow man, and guides them as a moral compass. Then there is the small minority militant aspect where the religion is used as a weapon. Christianity in America is starting down a similar path. I think the majority of Christians in American are of the live and let live and love your fellow man variety, while there is a growing portion that is more militant and about using their influence to gain and maintain their power. That is why I threw out the rhetorical, how long until we see crusades and inquisitions? That is a frightening thought, tbh.Americanized Christianity seems more like a disease than a meaningful and fulfilling faith to me. Talk about leading astray. It’s an illness. And it bears watching.
The thing is the bible does have influence on US politics, if only because politicians cannot separate themselves from who the are and many of them believe in the Bible. It's where all the anti-abortion stuff is coming from. The anti-contraception stuff too, for some stupid ****ing reason. It's the foundation of the MAGA belief system, as in it's the best thing to hold up to show people you believe what they believe as part of your brainwashing program.I’m curious why you think it’s taken the media so long to recognize the danger this movement poses for American democracy? It’s not like it’s new. Mike Huckabee’s campaign in 2008 was far more explicit with his embrace with Christian nationalism than Trumps (perhaps that’s why Trump won and Huckabee and Santorum didn’t?)
Santorum:
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Huckabee Elevates Ten Commandments Above Secular Laws
If everyone obeyed the Ten Commandments and New Testament, there would be less need for laws to be enforced by the government, Republican presidentialgoodfaithmedia.org
![]()
The Conservative Crusade For Christian Sharia Law
It’s not just the fringe anymore. Mainstream conservatives are trying to bring America’s laws into agreement with ‘God’s law.’www.thedailybeast.com
It’s not like they’re screaming into the void. This should horrify most people on this website:
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Half of Americans say Bible should influence U.S. laws, including 28% who favor it over the will of the people
About half of Americans say the Bible should have at least “some” influence on U.S. laws; 23% say it should have “a great deal” of influence.www.pewresearch.org
Good pts.The thing is the bible does have influence on US politics, if only because politicians cannot separate themselves from who the are and many of them believe in the Bible. It's where all the anti-abortion stuff is coming from. The anti-contraception stuff too, for some stupid ****ing reason. It's the foundation of the MAGA belief system, as in it's the best thing to hold up to show people you believe what they believe as part of your brainwashing program.
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