A bunch of Biyombo game footage videos

[Joe Bagadonuts]

Sene was a center while Biyombo is a 6-9 PF (who can play center at times). It's alot easier to get minutes when you're an unskilled PF who can out-hustle, crash the boards, defend screen-roll and cover alot of ground defensively than an unskilled 7-footer who gets pushed around underneath the rim.

And any Eaton/Biyombo comparison is absurd.

The reason Eaton comes up was that he was a defensive presence and an offensive liability. I think that's where Biyombo is right now, though clearly their games are very different. Back in Eaton's day they could pull him outside the three point line at the offensive end and create illegal defenses on the opposing team. With Biyombo we have to hope that his athleticism results in slam dunks if they try to cheat off of him because he's probably not ever going to be a jump shooter.

 

[NUMBERICA]

Here's a cool thought; The Jazz might be perfectly situated in how to maximize Biyombo (eventually).

Let's operate off the assumption that Millsap is no longer a starter, plays 8-10 minutes less per game, and can marry his former wrecking crew persona (because he's playing lesser competition a lot of the time, and fewer minutes, thus he would have more energy and wouldn't have to worry about foul-trouble as much) to his new-found skill. If you're playing Biyombo late in the game and the other team adopts a hack-a-'mack philosophy, ****ing let them. Get them in the penalty, pull Biyombo, then put in Millsap to close the game. In addition to that, if Memo resurrects himself and can be salvaged for a couple of years, he'd be a perfect complement to Biyombo.

The End.

 

[Joe Bagadonuts]

^Love it.

 

[trigg3r]

Here's a cool thought; The Jazz might be perfectly situated in how to maximize Biyombo (eventually).

Let's operate off the assumption that Millsap is no longer a starter, plays 8-10 minutes less per game, and can marry his former wrecking crew persona (because he's playing lesser competition a lot of the time, and fewer minutes, thus he would have more energy and wouldn't have to worry about foul-trouble as much) to his new-found skill. If you're playing Biyombo late in the game and the other team adopts a hack-a-'mack philosophy, ****ing let them. Get them in the penalty, pull Biyombo, then put in Millsap to close the game. In addition to that, if Memo resurrects himself and can be salvaged for a couple of years, he'd be a perfect complement to Biyombo.

The End.

Your glasses are too rosy on this one. Biyombo is a major project. Of course at 12 he would be a steal in a weak draft. I don't see your argument working out. I think Paul will not want to play with the 2nd unit again(no proof, just think he fashions himself a starter now). I think Okur's career is next to over. Paul very well could be traded if he is unwilling to go back to the bench. The "hack a smack" game plan will work for them late in games in Biyombo is in. We'll see what happens at the 3rd pick. If we take Kanter, I don't see them taking Biyombo at 12 even if he is the BPA.

 

[vslice02]

I think the Ben Wallace comparison has been clubbed to death, but it's the most realistic positive projection I've heard.

Agree, I think of Ben Wallace as the ceiling. I think someone like a Joel Anthony is closer to the basement, but if 2 years from now you end up with a more athletic, bouncier, above-the-rim shotblocking Joel Anthony out of the 12th pick - I think that'd still be a very solid shoice.

 

[idiot]

did anyone else notice that he fell to the ground a lot in each game he played, including the Nike Hoop Summit? i am a little concerned about that since that would get him in a position where he can get hurt a lot. that also shows he is not very balanced when he moves.

This. I'm mostly still on the Biyombo bandwagon, but Numberica, since you're the most enthusiastic about Biyombo, please address this.

 

[zbone]

After watching and and re-watching BB video I noticed that he looks very unfocused in his workouts. He never was at 100%. Drastic difference with in-game footage where he is physical and explosive.
This makes me wondering if he is at 100% in gym environment. He maybe just not used to it. He may have problems in the NBA earning a spot through hard work as it was the case with Fesenko.

 

[jimmy eat jazz]

Agree, I think of Ben Wallace as the ceiling. I think someone like a Joel Anthony is closer to the basement, but if 2 years from now you end up with a more athletic, bouncier, above-the-rim shotblocking Joel Anthony out of the 12th pick - I think that'd still be a very solid shoice.

How many good seasons did Wallace have? A few with Detroit, but he flamed out quickly. He strikes me as a system guy; did great in the Detroit system surrounded by the right teammates, but his descent was rapid and pronounced.

I'm just citing this from memory, though, so I may not have it 100% right.

 

[Archie Moses]

Biyombo was exposed in a workout.

 

[Dr. Jones]

Biyombo was exposed in a workout.

Amaechi wants pics.

 

[vslice02]

How many good seasons did Wallace have? A few with Detroit, but he flamed out quickly. He strikes me as a system guy; did great in the Detroit system surrounded by the right teammates, but his descent was rapid and pronounced.

I'm just citing this from memory, though, so I may not have it 100% right.

4-time defensive player of the year, 4-time All-Star, All-defensive team 6 times, top-10 in blocks 7 times, top-10 in rebounding and blocks 7 times. Wasn't worth the 4-year $60 million contract the Bulls gave him - but by that time he was 32. Don't think Biyombo will be as good as Big Ben - but if you think he can be half the defensive player Wallace was - you draft him without worrying about how he'll play when he's 32.

Not sure he'll ever be a quality starter - but could definitely envision him as a solid, difference-making role player - which isn't any worse than most of the other players who should be available for the Jazz at #12.

 

[billyshelby]

Agree, I think of Ben Wallace as the ceiling. I think someone like a Joel Anthony is closer to the basement, but if 2 years from now you end up with a more athletic, bouncier, above-the-rim shotblocking Joel Anthony out of the 12th pick - I think that'd still be a very solid shoice.

Not just a solid choice. An absolute no brainer. I think he's going to be better than Ibaka defensively, but probably not as good offensively. The bigger point is I've been racking my brain trying to think of the last guy coming into the league who I was absolutely sure would be an impact defensive center. I know there must have been somebody before Duncan, maybe Okafor, but that's how rare guys like him are.