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[LogGrad98]

I'm sorry, I don't understand why it means that things have to move faster than light? Also don't understand why it means that energy was created from nothing. My understanding is that the singularity contained all the matter that the universe is made up of and when it went "bang" it released a massive amount of energy which was essentially being stored in it.

I won't pretend to know anything about the existence of time defore, during and after the big bang, but I've always just assumed that "big bangs" are cyclic.

There are a few theories. The cyclic thing is one of them. They have also seen that our universe appears to be somewhat lop-sided so another theory is we "bubbled" off of another universe somehow. There are a couple others as well. Of course no one really knows. It's all theory.

 

[Alfalfa]

There are a few theories. The cyclic thing is one of them. They have also seen that our universe appears to be somewhat lop-sided so another theory is we "bubbled" off of another universe somehow. There are a couple others as well. Of course no one really knows. It's all theory.

No that's not true. And stop talking about theories like it's guys shooting the ****. The current model indicated a forever expanding universe. The big crunch theory was accepted before the discovery of dark energy in the 90s.

 

[Gameface]

Thats a good post until the last part(Ill get to that in a second)

I agree with with most of what you said. I feel the same way. I still like to see you as a liberal though. I need a target to fight the ideas that I dont like from the left.

So you are opposed to gay conversion therapy and repulsed by it, but you are not opposed to teaching kids to choose their gender, and transition as a child? The left is teaching that. Why didnt you mention it?

Is teaching your kids to stay in a state of being able to reproduce worse than teaching the opposite of that? Is reproduction not important?

I'm confused by the analogy you're trying to make between conversion therapy and transgender children?

I think what is being advocated is allowing transgender children to express themself according to the gender they identify with. Spinning that to mean adults are telling kids they aren't really boys or girls and they can just casually decide for themselves which gender they want to be is not even close to what's going on.

I have mixed feelings about starting hormone replacement in very young children.

 

[LogGrad98]

No that's not true. And stop talking about theories like it's guys shooting the ****. The current model indicated a forever expanding universe. The big crunch theory was accepted before the discovery of dark energy in the 90s.

Lol

 

[Alfalfa]

Lol

lol indeed. Just because you read something on popsci doesn't mean all theories are equal and you get to adopt which ever random one you like.

 

[framer]

So what do you think the people who have devoted their lives to studying astrophysics are up to? Are they intentionally deceiving all of us for some sort of nefarious purpose?

Nope, I just don't think they know. Big Bang science isn't politicized, but very few people are going to say "I don't have enough information to make that determination." It is likely we will never know for sure. Not knowing doesn't get you published either.

 

[Alfalfa]

There's a theory that the earth is filled with ice. It's all theories. Which means it's all meaningless, you guys. Just believe whatever.

#epistemologicalcrisis

 

[framer]

I mean look at the certainty alfalfa is displaying. He has no damn idea and isn't an astrophysicist but he KNOWS damnit!!! I mean he may have more pieces than the average dude, but his certainty is bullcrap. There are people with more knowledge and accolades that disagree with his learned (not arrived at) conclusions, that aren't treated like heretics by the people that currently believe as he does.

 

[Gameface]

Nope, I just don't think they know. Big Bang science isn't politicized, but very few people are going to say "I don't have enough information to make that determination." It is likely we will never know for sure. Not knowing doesn't get you published either.

But these guys are doing serious research and refining their understanding of this stuff and it isn't like every other day they have to throw everything they thought they knew in the trash and relearn how the universe works. They are building on their current understanding and sometimes adjusting their conclusions. The idea that soon enough they'll be like "Welp, looks like the "Big Bang" was wrong, turns out our universe is actually the turd of a space turtle." is silly.

 

[framer]

There's a theory that the earth is filled with ice. It's all theories. Which means it's all meaningless, you guys. Just believe whatever.

#epistemologicalcrisis

Freaking moron, everybody knows the Earth is hollow. . .

 

[LogGrad98]

lol indeed. Just because you read something on popsci doesn't mean all theories are equal and you get to adopt which ever random one you like.

So I laughed because I never said that, at all. That's a fabrication of that thing you call a mind. I simply pointed out there are several theories regarding the formation of the universe and that scientists are not unified. Of course some fall out of favor as new info is discovered, but there are more than one active theories right this very second, and new information is added all the time. And in the end no one really knows.

But you sure do make a great science cop there little guy. Keep fighting the imaginary fight!

 

[framer]

But these guys are doing serious research and refining their understanding of this stuff and it isn't like every other day they have to throw everything they thought they knew in the trash and relearn how the universe works. They are building on their current understanding and sometimes adjusting their conclusions. The idea that soon enough they'll be like "Welp, looks like the "Big Bang" was wrong, turns out our universe is actually the turd of a space turtle." is silly.

I mean the real thing is that the Universe appears to be expanding, at least from our limited perspective. Big Bang is an explanation of that. It checks a lot of the questionnaire. I just find it fascinating because it is an ongoing scientific argument that hasn't been politicized. People are constantly challenging it, which is fun to follow. I would suspect that most astrophysicists don't make it a big part of their studies though, and just accept the "consensus" because they have other problems and concerns to puzzle out.