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Zombie said:
Sounds like you are trying to make volunteering for a campaign into a much more nefarious thing than it actually is.

Do you have a problem with people canvassing neighborhoods to meet with voters and talk about political issues and candidates as well?
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This is what I’m thinking. Like, they’re paid to raise topics and keep them in the public’s eye.

Ok, and?
 
Zombie said:
Sounds like you are trying to make volunteering for a campaign into a much more nefarious thing than it actually is.

Do you have a problem with people canvassing neighborhoods to meet with voters and talk about political issues and candidates as well?
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I'm just calling it what it is. It's political lobbying with a clear bias and agenda, probably with some level of planning and organization. If that's allowed within the rules of this web site, then so be it. I'll just continue to laugh at it.
 
Catchall said:
I don't know who you are Mr. Kickyass, or who you're affiliated with, but Internet censorship is a real thing, and propaganda isn't something that's limited to just the Russians. If you don't think political campaigns have a list of daily talking points and news spins, or that they would engage their campaign staff to disseminate information online, that's on you.

This guy treated it as a part-time job and monitored several social media web sites, posting with multiple identities, to push stories for Hillary and other Democrats during the 2016 election cycle. He's a really sharp guy with a solid career, not some dufus posting random opinions on politics.

Not to say there aren't other people like this out there. Every time a significant politician posts on Twitter, there are a number of people rushing in to reply with their contrarian views or to push their own agenda. Think of this as playing out in an organized fashion.

I'm sure Thriller and others believe in the information they're posting, or in the candidates or policies they're lobbying for, as did the person I'm referring to. They've just chosen to use a sports message board as their venue to push their content out, with the zeal and regularity of a campaign staffer or dedicated lobbyist.
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So, what's the problem here exactly? People who are civilly minded and interested in politics are spending their time... Talking about issues they care about?

I don't geddit.
 
Catchall said:
I'm just calling it what it is. It's political lobbying with a clear bias and agenda, probably with some level of planning and organization. If that's allowed within the rules of this web site, then so be it. I'll just continue to laugh at it.
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I promise we're no more organized than the pro/anti Exum stans on the main forum here. Some of us just share a lot of the same views, and come here to talk about them. I think you're letting your paranoia get the better of you on this.
 
Zombie said:
I promise we're no more organized than the pro/anti Exum stans on the main forum here. Some of us just share a lot of the same views, and come here to talk about them.
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So Thriller has made 186 posts so far in the last 7 days, and you've made 173. What percentage of these 359 posts would you say are related to the Utah Jazz, and what percentage would you say are related to promoting your political views?
 
Catchall said:
So Thriller has made 186 posts so far in the last 7 days, and you've made 173. What percentage of these 359 posts would you say are related to the Utah Jazz, and what percentage would you say are related to promoting your political views?
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Not sure what this has to do with whether our posting here is coordinated or managed in some way, but you're aware it's the offseason right lol? Not a whole lot to talk about at this point. I don't know if I've posted there at all this week, but I'm pretty active in game chats and other threads when there's actual basketball to discuss.

As for whether we're "lobbying" or not, I don't think there's anything wrong with individuals lobbying for things they support. That doesn't make us stooges or hacks.
 
Catchall said:
So Thriller has made 186 posts so far in the last 7 days, and you've made 173. What percentage of these 359 posts would you say are related to the Utah Jazz, and what percentage would you say are related to promoting your political views?
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Oh cool, now do heathme!

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Zombie said:
Is it possible that his friend was simply a volunteer for Hillary's election campaign working in social media and Catchall is misunderstanding what he was involved in?

Because that's what it sounds like to me.
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That's possible-ish. I seriously doubt it would be a "go talk on Reddit" kind of gig. Can you even imagine the potential downside of such a thing to have a bunch of quasi-trained internet volunteers chatting on boards, and then have them be officially affiliated with the campaign in some manner? All it takes is getting one yahoo to say something super dumb and then it's an official campaign statement.

Everything about how campaigns operate is designed to limit and control the number and types of channels of campaign speech. It's the reason "surrogates" are chosen carefully and screened.

If he's making out some people who share their political opinions out to be a secret, well-organized cabal - I don't even know what to tell you.
 
Catchall said:
Heathme doesn't show up on the Top Posters board. He (or she) hasn't posted enough. The Top Posters board is on the main menu page of the site.
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Dat politics to jazz ratio sky high doe

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