A story about prayer

[franklin]

That's not true. I noticed your currently atheist bent earlier today and was piqued by it. It's interesting watching the back and forth within you.

 

[sirkickyass]

There were a lot of meaningful posts on both sides of the fence inside, and even the middle--I don't recall any of yours.

You tell me what you'd rather talk about?

Option 1:

Option 2:

I know which one I'm picking every time.

 

[franklin]

Like anyone is believing that

 

[Zombie]

This all makes me sad.

Shout out to those posters carrying heavy water in this thread. You know who you are.

Thanks bra

 

[Archie Moses]

I just don't get why people have such animosity towards something. Maybe it's because if they make something look evil or bad and beat at it, it may take away from feelings that they once had? Don't know.

 

[TroutBum]

Hmm. Bad joke, then.



In other words, you didn't read anything from the link that I provided. But I do appreciate you using source material this time. Again, if you want to have a serious discussion than read the (granted very lengthy) analysis I posted.

Edit: quick summary of my lengthy analysis: the first quote is very likely to mean that Adam has a special stewardship over us, his posterity, and not that he is identical to Heavenly Father or the one to whom we should pray; and the "same character" mentioned in the second quote is very likely to be talking about Heavenly Father (remember God visited Adam in the garden). Proponents of the Adam-God theory have a huge task to reconcile those two quotes with countless other statements by Brigham Young about the nature of God and the nature of Adam. See for example the 15 points at the very bottom of my analysis.

And you're one of the guys teaching our children? Oh, the huge manatee!

Change it to the religious folk, and doesn't this post sound just as ridiculous?

He posted it in a public forum. Fair game.

Translation: "I'm a prick."

 

[The Black Swordsman]

Atheists are a lot of times really arrogant. If we combine all knowledge that mankind collectively knows it will be far less then 1% of total knowledge possible. In the over 99% that mankind does not know there could be something that flips our whole worldview. For this reason, I try my best not to look down on other religions, even radically really different ones from mine like Hinduism. I even acknowledge that I may be wrong and they may be right. I don't think so, otherwise I would be a Hindu or w/e, but it is still possible. Atheists claim moreso then any religion to have a monopoly on truth and claim to be the one true worldview (not all atheists, but most of the ones that are vocal online at least).

No one alive has not seen the other side of death by definition. We don't know what happens after death. I admnit that an afterlife is an act of faith on my part. However the atheist claims to KNOW that there is no afterlife. I ask atheists what type of evidence would they require for an afterlife? People to come back alive and testify in court?

One of the world's most famous atheist who is a neuroscientist alive today named Sam Harris even acknowledges this.

"Science is not in principle committed to the idea that there’s no afterlife or that the mind is identical to the brain" - Sam Harris

 

[JJ Rage]

Man, who would've though this thread would explode into a mess of ****?

 

[One Brow]

I have no doubt that the parents staying calm plays a huge part in these situations, but I KNOW WITHOUT A DOUBT that prayer worked. It's just that simple for me.

Because, it couldn't be that, at that particular time, your presence was more of a comfort than your wife's presence? Or, even that seeing both parents calm was more reassuring than seeing one parent calm? Or they just tired themselves out? No, must be God, taking time off from not feeding hungry kids in Africa to make sure yours took a nap.

 

[One Brow]

In one story you have parents that live a good lifestyle (making assumptions) and are spending time as a family.

Not sure what flavor your religion is, but in many forms of Christianity, all works are inherently sinful, and there is no such thing as living a good life. Do you believe people can be genuinely good?

 

[One Brow]

Race, Color, Creed, Sexual Orientation, whether or not you seriously watch The Bachelor shows.

Which of those, outside of creed, try to post their superiority in public schools? Which of them, outside of creed, condemn people not in the group to an inferior enternity of some sort? Which of them, outside of creed and watching The Bachelor, is based on how you think, as opposed to who you are?

 

[One Brow]

But I never performed the rituals atheists are so fond of.

I thought debating religion in internet forums was an atheist ritual. I don't know of any others.