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franklin said:
Burks was a 40% shooter from 22-24' 3 pointers last season. His problem comes when he steps a foot or more outside of range (29% from 25-29'). Take out his endoshot heaves (he had 13 vs. 2 for Hayward) and he shot a solid 38.4% combined from 22-29'.
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Wait, are you saying Burks shot 38% 3pt FGs if you take away the end of shot clock/quarter/half heaves? Very interesting, franklin. thanks for posting.
 
QuinSnydersHair said:
I love the kid but Jesus, this board needs to seriously relax on the Gobert is the next Bill Russell talk. If he underwhelms, which I'm thinking he can only do at this point, 90% of the board is going to be put on suicide watch.
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Word. I'll get excited when his game translates against the big, starting caliber NBA players. In the D-League he showed he can dominate players who don't have elite NBA size, which is great, since many backups aren't huge. Next step is doing that **** against the Marc Gasols and Dwight Howards of the league.
 
Cyrone Torbin said:
Word. I'll get excited when his game translates against the big, starting caliber NBA players. In the D-League he showed he can dominate players who don't have elite NBA size, which is great, since many backups aren't huge. Next step is doing that **** against the Marc Gasols and Dwight Howards of the league.
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I'd even take it a step further and say I want to see him play very well (I don't need him to dominate per se) against the back-up bigs in this league. If he can do that for 14+ minutes a night this year, I'd be very happy.

At this point, I'm thinking Favors should play about 32 a night, Kanter 28, which leaves 22 for Booker and 14 for Gobert.
 
franklin said:
Burks was a 40% shooter from 22-24' 3 pointers last season. His problem comes when he steps a foot or more outside of range (29% from 25-29'). Take out his endoshot heaves (he had 13 vs. 2 for Hayward) and he shot a solid 38.4% combined from 22-29'.
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1. Presumably, most of those 22-24- shots are from the corner. The line above the break is at 23'9''. Those distances are presumably rounded, so perhaps shots from 24.5' are being counted in the 25-29' range. Those shots would be coming from only 9'' beyond the line. Not that any of this changes your main point: Alec is a decent spot-up shooter from 3.

2. Where are these stats from?
 
Stats from NBA.com. Franklin's presumably taking the 13 shots from 30'+ out, which is reasonable. Alec was 50/130 on 3s inside 30'.
 
GVC said:
Stats from NBA.com. Franklin's presumably taking the 13 shots from 30'+ out, which is reasonable. Alec was 50/130 on 3s inside 30'.
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Thanks. 38.5% is above average. Factoring in his ability to slash, attack, get to the line, pass and rebound, if this kid can truly give a damn on defense, we have a hell of a player. Should we try to extend him now, what do you think we should offer, all things considered?

I'd say 4 years, 40M.
 
QuinSnydersHair said:
Thanks. 38.5% is above average. Factoring in his ability to slash, attack, get to the line, pass and rebound, if this kid can truly give a damn on defense, we have a hell of a player. Should we try to extend him now, what do you think we should offer, all things considered?

I'd say 4 years, 40M.
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I agree with this post. If he would take that, I'd be happy because I think he'll get more on the semi-open market for RFAs.

I have a feeling he's going to have a big year offensively.
 
Ellis269 said:
I agree with this post. If he would take that, I'd be happy because I think he'll get more on the open market.
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I was gonna say 4 years, 44M but I have a feeling Burks' reputation league-wide isn't even close to as hyped as Hayward's has been. Or Lowry. Or any of these guys getting 12M+. Knowing that, he and his agent may accept 4 years, 40M. I doubt it though.
 
QuinSnydersHair said:
I was gonna say 4 years, 44M but I have a feeling Burks' reputation league-wide isn't even close to as hyped as Hayward's has been. Or Lowry. Or any of these guys getting 12M+. Knowing that, he and his agent may accept 4 years, 40M. I doubt it though.
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Agreed.

and since his extension can be negotiated (we dont just have to make one offer and take it or leave it for burks) i would offer 4 years 32 million dollars to start and then if they say no i would increase the offer a little bit, until i got to the 4 year 44 million mark.
If you start low it could come off as bad, like an insult kind of......but if you start low, you may get a steal of a deal and even if they say no then maybe by the time you hit the 10 million per year mark they feel like they are kicking *** in the negotiation and take that deal....... without knowing you were planning on paying that all along anyway
 
fishonjazz said:
Agreed.

and since his extension can be negotiated (we dont just have to make one offer and take it or leave it for burks) i would offer 4 years 32 million dollars to start and then if they say no i would increase the offer a little bit, until i got to the 4 year 44 million mark.
If you start low it could come off as bad, like an insult kind of......but if you start low, you may get a steal of a deal and even if they say no then maybe by the time you hit the 10 million per year mark they feel like they are kicking *** in the negotiation and take that deal....... without knowing you were planning on paying that all along anyway
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I definitely don't disagree but man, that's a really fine line Lindsey will be walking. Especially with Burks and his agent knowing what Hayward just got paid.
 
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