Coach Ellis
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I want to see them run too, but I don't pass up Parker if he's there. I want the elite scorer.
Aaron Gordon..Why do you want him?
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Sexual Favors
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Fair enough. I can't really say I fault you. Running and defense are a preference of mine right now as I think it will help everyone as opposed to one.
I think the offense can be attributed to bad scheme as well. He used Hayward as point forward (point shooting guard?) much of the time when he had Burke who is a true point guard, and pretty good at it when given the chance. Defense is as much about effort as it is about scheme. A guy like Gordon will bring up the effort of everyone around him while guarding the best 2-4 on the other team. Now I agree that his offense is a huge question mark. Right now he is #4 on my board behind the big 3. Play him at SF and let Kanter spread the floor a little on offense.
I might be echoing some of the same sentiments, but I'll answer anyway.
He appears to have elite level athleticism. He appears to look like he can come in the NBA tomorrow and be at least a good defender, and perhaps once he gets the game down an all defensive team type guy. And as a 3 it looks like he can create tons of mismatches with his athleticism. Finally, it looks like he cares out there and wants to get better.
His shot worries the hell out of me though. His FT rate is just flat out unacceptable. Still I hope he can pull a Karl and work on that.
He's not my first pick past the top 3, but I wouldn't complain if the Jazz got him from 4-7. That being said I could be just drinking the pre draft hype koolaid now. I wouldn't be upset with any of Exum/Randle/Gordon/Smart at 4-7 (and I know all of them have massive detractors, so perhaps I'm just optimistic), but would prefer the Jazz to get into the top 3 and avoid that conversation. Right now Vonlah, Saric, or Anderson are the guys who I cringe about getting with the pain that was this season, but would at least try to be optimistic about them.
He appears to have elite level athleticism. He appears to look like he can come in the NBA tomorrow and be at least a good defender, and perhaps once he gets the game down an all defensive team type guy. And as a 3 it looks like he can create tons of mismatches with his athleticism. Finally, it looks like he cares out there and wants to get better.
His shot worries the hell out of me though. His FT rate is just flat out unacceptable. Still I hope he can pull a Karl and work on that.
He's not my first pick past the top 3, but I wouldn't complain if the Jazz got him from 4-7. That being said I could be just drinking the pre draft hype koolaid now. I wouldn't be upset with any of Exum/Randle/Gordon/Smart at 4-7 (and I know all of them have massive detractors, so perhaps I'm just optimistic), but would prefer the Jazz to get into the top 3 and avoid that conversation. Right now Vonlah, Saric, or Anderson are the guys who I cringe about getting with the pain that was this season, but would at least try to be optimistic about them.
Coach Ellis
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The key is Andrew Wiggins. Get the first pick in the draft and you get a guy who makes it look easy. He can score and has the elite athleticism to be a top level defender.
Outside of that, you take the best player on your board and either fit him in or build around him. I have Wiggins, Parker, Embiid and Randle rated above Aaron Gordon. I'd take him over Exum, Smart and Vonleh. Doesn't mean the Jazz feel the same. As long as they get one if those 8 players I'll be really happy.
Outside of that, you take the best player on your board and either fit him in or build around him. I have Wiggins, Parker, Embiid and Randle rated above Aaron Gordon. I'd take him over Exum, Smart and Vonleh. Doesn't mean the Jazz feel the same. As long as they get one if those 8 players I'll be really happy.
Doublea
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Sexual Favors
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Yes, but how often did he do that? If it was easier for him, he would've done it more. His movement isn't fluid like Wiggins, A. Gordon, or even some of the guys we already have on our team. He has never played fast continuously.
Sexual Favors
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If I am wrong, and we get him (jabari), I will be ecstatic and be the first to eat my words.
If we get him and he (and by extension we) run at a pace that reflects our other athletes, and if he can guard NBA SF's like Lebron and KD, then Jazzfanz has permission to run a neg train on me next offseason. Book it.
If we get him and he (and by extension we) run at a pace that reflects our other athletes, and if he can guard NBA SF's like Lebron and KD, then Jazzfanz has permission to run a neg train on me next offseason. Book it.
MVP
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Have you ever seen Parker play? I doubt if you spew nonsense like that.
Stifle Tower
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Drew, Aaron, Eric and Gordon Hayward. Can we make a spelling exception and include Giricek? Wonder if Lightfoot would joins us for some music: "The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald" could be adapted with lyrics to fit the Utah Jazz' season.
