Ace Bailey Hype thread

[Thee Jazz Fan]

And? Players move up and down the board all the time. Ace was not the clear 3rd best prospect at all. The biggest harm to Ace’s draft stock was his poor play at Rutgers.

Your right. It wasn’t the fact he didn’t work out for anyone and told everyone in the top five not to draft him.

 

[KqWIN]

Your right. It wasn’t the fact he didn’t work out for anyone and told everyone in the top five not to draft him.

If he was good enough, they would have drafted him anyways. Happens every year. The Jazz drafted him because they thought he was good enough, but the other teams did not. If it mattered so much the Jazz wouldn’t have drafted him either. Teams at the top of the draft do not care about this.

You act as if refusing to workout is the only thing that could possibly move a player in predraft. Ace top 3 wasn’t really even a hard consensus anyways. And if he didn’t disappoint at Rutgers maybe he’d be top 2 still.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

I think Ace doing the refusal stuff did hurt him because it reinforced the narrative around him of being selfish and maybe not coachable. But that doubt was cast because of the way he played at Rutgers.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

And if Ace did workout for teams, it's not impossible to think that 2-4 would have been wowed by him in a workout setting. So I think both things are right, but I would say the Rutgers piece is the foundational piece of the doubt around Bailey.

 

[KqWIN]

I think Ace doing the refusal stuff did hurt him because it reinforced the narrative around him of being selfish and maybe not coachable. But that doubt was cast because of the way he played at Rutgers.

Sure that’s fair. But if any team had him atop their board they would have done the same as the Jazz.

The decision to go to Rutgers and not go somewhere where he would actually get coached was the mistake.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

The skill that has most wowed me about Ace is how quick his footwork is to get his shot off. He's got feet like a movement shooter.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

The Boozer/Bailey duo is going to be crazy. The Killer Bee's

 

[Hearsky]

Floor Brandon Ingram/Lamar Odom. Ceiling Carmelo Anthony.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Also, a Jazz centric comp, Ace Bailey so far has kind of been like an athletic/long version of Rodney Hood.

 

[jom2003]

Don't think Tatum comp is entirely unrealistic. Tatum also had more TOs than assists when he was on college and now he's one of the best playmaking SFs in the league. It's something Ace certainly could develop if Hardy allows him to run some plays on the pick n roll.

 

[Thee Jazz Fan]

And if Ace did workout for teams, it's not impossible to think that 2-4 would have been wowed by him in a workout setting. So I think both things are right, but I would say the Rutgers piece is the foundational piece of the doubt around Bailey.

And yet if he works out for the 76ers hell even the Spurs who didn’t need a pg could’ve been wowed enough to take him. Teams are more informed than you think.

Team is wowed by the player and chalk up his bad year to playing with bad teammates and bad coaches that let him learn bad habits and believing their good coaches can un-teach those bad habits. Obviously he wasn’t helped by choosing a bad team, but doing what basically no prospect has ever done before telling teams not to draft him and not working out for anyone definitely was a bigger harm for his draft stock.