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Ace Bailey Hype thread

Saint Cy of JFC said:
I think Ace doing the refusal stuff did hurt him because it reinforced the narrative around him of being selfish and maybe not coachable. But that doubt was cast because of the way he played at Rutgers.
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Sure that’s fair. But if any team had him atop their board they would have done the same as the Jazz.

The decision to go to Rutgers and not go somewhere where he would actually get coached was the mistake.
 
Also, a Jazz centric comp, Ace Bailey so far has kind of been like an athletic/long version of Rodney Hood.
 
Don't think Tatum comp is entirely unrealistic. Tatum also had more TOs than assists when he was on college and now he's one of the best playmaking SFs in the league. It's something Ace certainly could develop if Hardy allows him to run some plays on the pick n roll.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
And if Ace did workout for teams, it's not impossible to think that 2-4 would have been wowed by him in a workout setting. So I think both things are right, but I would say the Rutgers piece is the foundational piece of the doubt around Bailey.
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And yet if he works out for the 76ers hell even the Spurs who didn’t need a pg could’ve been wowed enough to take him. Teams are more informed than you think.

Team is wowed by the player and chalk up his bad year to playing with bad teammates and bad coaches that let him learn bad habits and believing their good coaches can un-teach those bad habits. Obviously he wasn’t helped by choosing a bad team, but doing what basically no prospect has ever done before telling teams not to draft him and not working out for anyone definitely was a bigger harm for his draft stock.
 
Everyone complained about his shot diet. I kind of like it. Midrange matters so much in the playoffs when teams are scheming to take away layups, dunks, and threes.
 
Hes kind of a weird scorer, really haven’t seen him score much out of the pick and roll. Seems like more of a pindown / flare screen type. Idk if he’ll ever be a primary ball handler but if he bulks up maybe he could be a good screener / roller one day.
 
I don't know if I really buy into the narrative that the mid range is more important in the playoffs. There's hardly a difference in shot distribution to begin with and the math doesn't change. It is true that defenses are better and try to force you into more mid range (bad) shots....but it doesn't follow that the ability to get good shots is less valuable. I consider getting quality shots a skill and not one that is less important once that gets tougher. I think there's a hint of truth to the original statement, but probably overblown.

Anyone can be efficient with any shot diet if they're shooting at elite levels as Ace has shown in two games. But in the bigger picture, I think it's really critical that Ace have a reasonable shot diet and especially critical that he gets more FT's.

Ace has shown more willingness to shoot the 3 ball which is excellent. Eventually I think a lot of these pin downs/flare screen type plays will be extended to the 3 point line. The other part that needs to happen is he needs to use the space he gets to put his head down and attack the hoop every once in a while. The hard drive where he went to the hoop (and didn't get the call) was great. Lauri is one of the best in the game at this, so maybe Ace can learn from him.
 
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