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what makes you think internet is OWNED by someone? pph wiat ameirca htinks it owns internet thats why it wants an offswitch for the internet
 
It is not an issue of privacy. It is an issue of government overstepping their bounds, again, and sidestepping due process and the constitution. The issue really is no different than the patriot act. A means of warrantless surveillance. How many here were fans of the patriot act? Care to extend it to anything you do online whether you fit a profile or not? It is not a great stretch to imagine this being broadened to include any activity they view as subversive, or that the government can be lobbied for. 1984 may not have been far off, just it is taking longer.
 
what makes you think internet is OWNED by someone? pph wiat ameirca htinks it owns internet thats why it wants an offswitch for the internet

So something man made is not owned? Who built it? Who did they give it to?

You're saying the internet is not owned, in part or in full?
 
prove it.

Why would I care to find your personal data, or need to to prove my point?

Proof: information is transmitted from publically available server to publically available server.

See, that was easy. Unless you're in a secure network, what you are doing is public.
 
It is not an issue of privacy. It is an issue of government overstepping their bounds, again, and sidestepping due process and the constitution. The issue really is no different than the patriot act. A means of warrantless surveillance. How many here were fans of the patriot act? Care to extend it to anything you do online whether you fit a profile or not? It is not a great stretch to imagine this being broadened to include any activity they view as subversive, or that the government can be lobbied for. 1984 may not have been far off, just it is taking longer.

wow atleast someone sees the issue thought no one would. getting neg rep for this thread :D.
 
I guess nobody knows anything about this for a reason.

Used to be, the air was all we needed as the medium of communication. . . . just enough to get a pulse of compression/rarification waves from a voice apparatus in a throat to an eardrum. Nobody thought they owned it until recently.

Now we have corporate/fascist interests and the whole UN schema of world "managers" thinking they own the air, the land, the water, all living things, all chemicals, all technology including radio broadcast technologies. . . . and those little backstreet shops in Bangladesh that copy skinflicks and whatever else have gotta be stopped. There is no such thing as "human" rights, just Corporate Rights.

Besides, the very idea of human Freedom of Speech is a dangerously seditious threat to Corporate Rights. And the whole concept of Corporate Governance.
 
also nobody owns the roads right. highways and such but still you get some privacy on it. no search and seazures without a warrant. the internet is just the same just a digital road.
so i expect privacy on the internet.
 
also nobody owns the roads right. highways and such but still you get some privacy on it. no search and seazures without a warrant. the internet is just the same just a digital road.
so i expect privacy on the internet.

You have significantly fewer privacy rights in public spaces than you do in private ones. That includes public roads, where it is significantly easier to conduct legal warrantless searches than it would be to conduct searches of a person's home.
 
sirkicky thats why you are a lawyer and not and it technician.

its been proven that laywers judges dont know **** about technology. there are enough court cases where its proven that lawyers and judges dont know what they are talking about.

That's why I didn't say anything about technology.

My points were as follows: It is not "hypocritical" for the United States to purportedly take actions in conflict with a EU Charter. Your source doesn't say anything about how a youtube upload of a birthday party could lead to liability.

You have advanced no response to those points and neither are about technology.
 
You have significantly fewer privacy rights in public spaces than you do in private ones. That includes public roads, where it is significantly easier to conduct legal warrantless searches than it would be to conduct searches of a person's home.

the problem with internet is if i could hack into your pc/tabelt/smartphone. i have cameras and micropones in your house. ooh wait you dont need privacy in your home just saying acta has far reaching privacy concerns.

under the norm of piracy.
just like patriot act under the norm of terroism

or various internt filters under the norm of child pornography.(the uk one just blocking of sites without a court order

dont get my wrong terrorism and child pornography are wrong and piracy to a certain extent.

but for example the child porn filter is now being used for piracy(the uk one). after they promised to only use it for CP. so now add piracy to the list its a slippery slope sooner or later it would be used to filter other stuff maybe even anti goverment websites.
 
You get privacy for the things that are hiddeen from view in your. If you can plainly see it from outside the car, it's not private.



Then encrypt all your data transmissions.

I know the plain view stuff seen it in lots of movies.

but most of my dtaa is encrypted ;)
 
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