Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (democratic socialist) wins NY primary

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  1. Douchebag K

    Douchebag K Well-Known Member

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    Uh owned ? Lol. Ron really.
     
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  2. Archie Moses

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    She owned him because she made a Trump-esque tweet? And he had the poor, twisted logic? Mmmmkay. Dear, gawd.
     
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  3. Archie Moses

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    Yeah, apparently saying you don't owe a response to someone after bragging conservatives are afraid to debate you and then playing the victim card is owning someone nowadays.

    Shapiro would mop the floor with her, let's be honest.
     
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  4. Ron Mexico

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    I didn't know she bragged about conservatives being afraid to debate her. That changes my mind about this some. Like I said I don't know much about these two and don't really care about either. The stuff from Ben that Archie posts on here makes him seem terrible and the stuff posted on here about her make me disagree with her stance on things.

    He might own the argument I have no idea. But probably using poor logic and bully tactics based on what I've seen from him.

    But right here he challenges her to a debate and obviously disagrees with her stance on things. Its safe to assume I disagree with both of them based on the little I have seen.

    She has a decent witty response to being pressured to debate him. But now that you say she claimed before people were afraid to debate her, that response seems not very good if that's the case.

    But then he claims she is labeling him a sexist cat caller. Which is poor logic since she never says he is. He compares the behavior. He also claims debate isn't bad intentions fully knowing he wants to prove her wrong or show her up in a debate.

    So based on what what you've added they both seem petty and look dumb with this exchange based on these tweets and your claim she said conservatives are afraid to debate her.
     
  5. Archie Moses

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    Can you give me an example of what I've posted about Shapiro that makes him seem terrible? Granted, I did post something I don't like about him this past week. That said, Shapiro isn't half as bad and evil as the left makes him out to be.
     
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  6. Ron Mexico

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    Well, I'm not the Left and like I said I never have heard anything about him until you started posting his videos. The little of every video I've watched that you have posted he has poor logic that he uses in his arguments.
     
  7. Jazzta

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    Shapiro puts Israel’s interests before anything, as expected.

    He was advocating for the US to attack Syria hard and bomb out their anti-missile defenses which is totally ludicrous.
     
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  8. Archie Moses

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    Like what? I think the last video I posted of Shapiro (besides the parody ones) was his speech at UC Berkeley.

    I think you're just parroting what others have said or have a skewed perspective of Shapiro. The dude is beyond smart, informed, and funny. His tweet response was classic Shapiro - he basically used a leftist tactic.

    There are plenty of things I don't agree with him on, just like anyone else, but he's not a bad guy and is mislabeled and lumped in with guys like Milo Yiannopoulos.

    I'd love to see the debate. I've seen a few where Shapiro doesn't destroy his contestant, but for the most part, he walks circles around people. The dude can spew facts faster than the micro machine man can.
     
  9. Archie Moses

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    I'm pretty ignorant on all of this. One if the reasons I like Shapiro is, even if I completely disagree with him on a topic, he's capable of making arguments as to why he believes it and has done his research. Can you give me a link about his comments, please?
     
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  10. Jazzta

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    I’ll be more than happy to when I find a moment.
     
  11. Archie Moses

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    I found this video. Does he say anything in this video that's ludicrous?

    I also found an article he wrote criticizing NYTs saying we should bomb Syria.
     
  12. idestroyedthetoilet

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    You wouldn't need a good debater like Shapiro to make her sound a fool. Her ideas are too easy to steamroll with basic neo-Keynesian, neo-classical, and new neo concepts. Throw in some real world data and she'd be toast.
     
  13. Ron Mexico

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    He might talk circles around people and spew facts but that doesn't mean it's good info.

    Using poor logic from the other side against them doesnt suddenly make that for logic.

    That tweet is a great example. He misconstrued words and change the conversation. If you use common logical fallacies then I don't trust your info. But if you use those and use lots of info you can probably debate well and get people to like your info, even though it's poor.
     
  14. Joe Bagadonuts

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    You think he should just let her slander him as a sexist and shut up? IMO, her's was the "poor twisted logic response." He was right to call her out for slander, but I think he should have left the cowardice part out.
     
  15. Joe Bagadonuts

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    He doesn't seem to say at all what @Jazzta claimed he did, but maybe he said that stuff at some other time. I'm looking forward to seeing jazzta's evidence.
     
  16. Joe Bagadonuts

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    Does your response even make sense to you? She clearly made a sexist accusation against him. He responded to it directly. What are you claiming that he misconstrued?
     
  17. Ron Mexico

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    She didn't call him sexist. She didn't say he was a cat caller. She did compare the behavior and it's accurate.

    But I do assume he is sexist because it's safe to some men are sexist because our society is sexist.

    It's also safe to assume he didn't want to help her by debating her so he did have bad intentions.
     
  18. Joe Bagadonuts

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    I couldn't disagree with you more.
     
  19. Jazzta

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    It’s right here, I don’t have time now to determine the minute mark:



    I do find the comment section comforting.
     
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  20. RandyForRubio

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    He doesn’t want to help her by debating, so he had bad intentions?

    Bro. You wanna talk false logic?C’mon.

    1) You make this seem like a bad thing. In what debate from opposing parties do they want to help each other? Calling it bad intentions makes it seem worse though, and that is intentionally misleading.

    2) She said conservatives are afraid to debate her. A conservative challenged her to a debate, while offering to donate to her political campaign. (Bad intentions tho). She then responded by comparing it to catcalling.

    Soooo...when you challenge people, then respond to challengers by saying it’s similar to catcalling (which she only said bc Shapiro is a male), you come off looking dumb.

    3) She doesn’t have to debate Shapiro. She shouldn’t debate him, tbh. But her response shows her immaturity and lack of wisdom.
     
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