Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (democratic socialist) wins NY primary

[Zombie]

There's plenty I disagree with Crowder on.

I'm not for casual homophobia. I just know the context of the whole thing and it doesn't bother me.

I must be a terrible person.

Yeah the context is obvious man. He's got a limp wrist and the word "fig" has an asterisk in the middle. It's beyond clear what meaning is intended. Slapping a fruit on the t shirt doesn't erase the meaning.

 

[Zombie]

For those of you that don't know anything about this, this summarizes it pretty good.

Interesting that the little summary doesn't include any examples of what kinds of things Crowder says about Maza. Calling him a lispy queer is somehow absent...

 

[Archie Moses]

Interesting that the little summary doesn't include any examples of what kinds of things Crowder says about Maza. Calling him a lispy queer is somehow absent...

Bro, he's a comedian. Saying lispy queer is literally quoting what Maza says about himself.

The video I posted he says plenty of examples (in satire.)

Either way, I'm done responding. I don't really care to defend a comedian that hurt your feelings.

 

[Zombie]

Bro, he's a comedian. Saying lispy queer is literally quoting what Maza says about himself.

The video I posted he says plenty of examples (in satire.)

Either way, I'm done responding. I don't really care to defend a comedian that hurt your feelings.

Yeah man he's a comedian, sure. He's just calling people **** and queers for laughs, that makes it all OK. Also white people should be able to say the N word, right? So long as we're joking of course, wink wink.

Again, have a good night.

 

[Archie Moses]

Yeah man he's a comedian, sure. He's just calling people **** and queers for laughs, that makes it all OK. Also white people should be able to say the N word, right? So long as we're joking of course, wink wink.

Again, have a good night.

It must be hard being you.

 

[Zombie]

It must be hard being you.

I thought you weren't responding to me anymore? But for what it's worth, it's really not.

 

[Stoked]

It must be hard being you.

I’m with Zombie on this one. Those camps are a national disgrace and will go down in history exactly like the “internment camps” we stuck Asians into in WW2. What a massive failure to live up to the idea of America.

 

[One Brow]

I tend to agree with this more.
“Such ignorant comparisons trivialize the Holocaust and thereby undermine the lessons of history we must learn,” Abe Foxman, director of the Center for the Study of Antisemitism at the Museum of Jewish Heritage, told Jewish Insider.


Bye, boy.

It's so interesting how suddenly right-wingers get all PC when they think they can use it to attack someone on the left.

The German camps were uniquely horrifying, because there were not only concentration camps, they were death camps. People were rounded up for the purposes of killing them. Ocasio-Cortez did not, to my knowledge, refer to the concentration camps on our southern border as death camps.

Besides, Hilter's camps were partly inspired by America's long history of concentration camps. Aren't you proud we are continuing our venerable traditions? [/sarcasm]

 

[One Brow]

This should trigger a few of you.

It was silly, stupid, and dull. Was that supposed to trigger me? I clicked around to several different points, but couldn't find where he referenced Ocasio-Cortez. Was it really after the 11:00 minute mark of the 12:00 video on about what she said?

 

[One Brow]

Let me guess, Daniel Tosh triggers you too?

Why would I be triggered by dull, repetitive hate? Did you mean "saddened"?

 

[LogGrad98]

Concentration camps have a history that predates the Holocaust and have been used in this country before. Calling something by what it clearly is doesn't diminish the atrocities that took place under Nazi Germany.

I think I'll take the word of a man who spent time in them, in our own country.

The swastika has history that predates the Nazis by centuries. You want one on a flag flying over your house right about now?

 

[One Brow]

The swastika has history that predates the Nazis by centuries. You want one on a flag flying over your house right about now?

I also don't want concentration camps in my country.

 

[LogGrad98]

It's so interesting how suddenly right-wingers get all PC when they think they can use it to attack someone on the left.

The German camps were uniquely horrifying, because there were not only concentration camps, they were death camps. People were rounded up for the purposes of killing them. Ocasio-Cortez did not, to my knowledge, refer to the concentration camps on our southern border as death camps.

Besides, Hilter's camps were partly inspired by America's long history of concentration camps. Aren't you proud we are continuing our venerable traditions? [/sarcasm]

I think very few ordinary citizens will draw any kind of meaningful distinction between concentration camps and death camps.

 

[One Brow]

I think very few ordinary citizens will draw any kind of meaningful distinction between concentration camps and death camps.

I have not heard a better term being offered as a replacement. Do you think gulag would be better? Usually, that implies people are being punished, so I think it is worse.

 

[LogGrad98]

I have not heard a better term being offered as a replacement. Do you think gulag would be better? Usually, that implies people are being punished, so I think it is worse.

I'm just saying that context matters, and in the context most people would identity with concentration camps what they are doing does not fit that context.

Don't get me wrong, it's still entirely unacceptable. But it doesn't make it better to over-sensationalize the situation by effectively Godwinning it. In fact that is a great way to stifle progress on resolving the issue due to shifting the focus away from the current reality and toward attacking and defending positions based on semantics and managing public opinion.

 

[One Brow]

I'm just saying that context matters, and in the context most people would identity with concentration camps what they are doing does not fit that context.

Don't get me wrong, it's still entirely unacceptable. But it doesn't make it better to over-sensationalize the situation by effectively Godwinning it.

I agree context matters. How do we avoid this context and still highlight the wrongness of the situation?

I suppose we disagree on whether "concentration camp" is Godwinning what happened to Native Americans in the 19th century, the Japanese in the 20th, or immigrants in the 21st. Really, unless you have a better term for such creations, how do we avoid the term?

 

[Archie Moses]

It was silly, stupid, and dull. Was that supposed to trigger me?

Exactly, it's silly and stupid.

I hope it doesn't trigger people. Sadly, it does.

 

[Zombie]

The swastika has history that predates the Nazis by centuries. You want one on a flag flying over your house right about now?

Of course not. I'm not sure what point you're making here.

 

[LogGrad98]

I agree context matters. How do we avoid this context and still highlight the wrongness of the situation?

I suppose we disagree on whether "concentration camp" is Godwinning what happened to Native Americans in the 19th century, the Japanese in the 20th, or immigrants in the 21st. Really, unless you have a better term for such creations, how do we avoid the term?

Don't put words in my mouth either. When did I make a blanket statement about any past such situations in our country?

 

[One Brow]

Don't put words in my mouth either. When did I make a blanket statement about any past such situations in our country?

I can't see why either the first two would not be "Godwinning" while the third is. So, while I did not intend to say you supported a comparison you did not support, I inferred that from the context. What do you see as the significant differences?