Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (democratic socialist) wins NY primary

[idestroyedthetoilet]

A lot of people are gonna meet IRMAA if Medicare for all passes.

This is ****ed. I already expect and plan on being in the bracket in retirement that gets reduced benefits because I "did the right thing" by working more and spending less than I make. The money is going to have to come from somewhere and it's most likely from people like me.

Disincentivising people this way will not turn out well for society. People will have even less incentive to save and invest in income producing assets, which means the wealth concentration will continue, which means more whining from those who don't and further entrenchment of the problem.

 

[Stoked]

This is ****ed. I already expect and plan on being in the bracket in retirement that gets reduced benefits because I "did the right thing" by working more and spending less than I make. The money is going to have to come from somewhere and it's most likely from people like me.

Disincentivising people this way will not turn out well for society. People will have even less incentive to save and invest in income producing assets, which means the wealth concentration will continue, which means more whining from those who don't and further entrenchment of the problem.

The IRMAA tables start with those who do well for themselves. Not the super rich. This is far below them. It starts at 85k from 2 years prior to the current year. Exclusions apply.

Again, in case alt is once again to dim to see, this is fact. Not pro or con.

 

[idestroyedthetoilet]

The IRMAA tables start with those who do well for themselves. Not the super rich. This is far below them. It starts at 85k from 2 years prior to the current year. Exclusions apply.

Again, in case alt is once again to dim to see, this is fact. Not pro or con.

That's what I was on about, not you and alts spat. If you want to see where the money will come from take a look at European taxation. The rich will pay more, sure, but so will those of us "promised" in the form of lowered benefits/higher taxes. I dont expect much return from my 15.3% tax.

 

[Archie Moses]

Maybe the other 38 trillion dollars she can't account for will come from the bling blingers who conducted her photoshoot who happened to conveniently have close to $4000 worth of clothes that fit her like a glove?


Hehepeepeecaca

 

[Zombie]

Maybe the other 38 trillion dollars she can't account for will come from the bling blingers who conducted her photoshoot who happened to conveniently have close to $4000 worth of clothes that fit her like a glove?


Hehepeepeecaca

LOL man, is it really a mystery to you how a magazine photo shoot works?

As for the rest of it, obviously we wouldn't need to spend the trillions of dollars we currently do for private and employer provided health insurance.

 

[Gameface]

Maybe the other 38 trillion dollars she can't account for will come from the bling blingers who conducted her photoshoot who happened to conveniently have close to $4000 worth of clothes that fit her like a glove?


Hehepeepeecaca

She says where the money will come from...

Why can't you hear it?

Instead of paying insurance premiums, and your employer paying more than you do, your out of pocket expenses for copay and all that, all that money is MORE than 38 trillion. All that would go away. It has been shown by a Republican estimate that medicare for all would cost less than our current system. That's where the money comes from. It costs less than what we have now. That's where the ****ing money comes from.

 

[Archie Moses]

LOL man, is it really a mystery to you how a magazine photo shoot works?

I'm certainly not an expert on it.

Tell me, is it common for magazines companies who are going under, being sued by employees for unpaid wages and not giving customers refunds to buy an outfitted suit worth $3500 for a photoshoot? If so, please see their track record.

I don't really care if she bought it or the magazine company did. I just think it's funny.

 

[Zombie]

I'm certainly not an expert on it.

Tell me, is it common for magazines companies who are going under, being sued by employees for unpaid wages and not giving customers refunds to buy an outfitted suit worth $3500 for a photoshoot? If so, please see their track record.

I don't really care if she bought it or the magazine company did. I just think it's funny.

Right, you don't care about whether you are making an uninformed *** out of yourself, so long as you 'own the libs.'
FWIW Clothes by big name fashion designers are given/loaned by the clothing companies for the purposes of photo shoots.

 

[Archie Moses]

She says where the money will come from...

Why can't you hear it?

When pressed on it twice, I heard her say, "We do know and acknowledge that there are political realities," she added. "They don't always happen with the wave of a wand, but we can work to make these things happen."

What time in the video does she answer for the 38 trillion?

 

[Archie Moses]

Right, you don't care about whether you are making an uninformed *** out of yourself, so long as you 'own the libs.'
FWIW Clothes by big name fashion designers are given/loaned by the clothing companies for the purposes of photo shoots.

Lol.

Yeah, ok, dude.

 

[Gameface]

When pressed on it twice, I heard her say, "We do know and acknowledge that there are political realities," she added. "They don't always happen with the wave of a wand, but we can work to make these things happen."

What time in the video does she answer for the 38 trillion?

I'm pretty sure she mentions that it will cost less than what we have now.

That's essentially where the money comes from.

But there are political realities to the specifics of how the money currently going into the system via employers and insurance premiums will go into the system via payments to the government.

 

[Deleted member 365]

My hell... are we still refuting basic myths about health care?

We have the least efficient and most expensive health care system in the developed world by a long shot. It’s because of our ridiculous privatized system, not lack of one. If we want to become more efficient then we desperately need more “socialism.”

Time and time again single payer systems prove that that they work by:

a) providing universal coverage
b) lower overall costs to both patients and country.
c) being the only moral way to deliver health care to the masses. Why should Americans die or become bankrupt for lack of health care coverage? How can we live with ourselves knowing that the rich and healthy receive the best care while those in need of health care the most don’t receive it?

It’s time to wake up. “Socialized medicine” isn’t a bad thing. For most of us, it would be a godsend.