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Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (democratic socialist) wins NY primary

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Republicans have been fantastic at controlling the narrative over the past few decades. "Death panels" and "job creators" for example. They seem to have lost their touch recently.
 
LogGrad98 said:
And I think detention center or something similar is descriptive enough without being distracting from discourse.
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People going to detention for doing something wrong. People who have tried to claim asylum and wound up in a concentration camp haven't done anything wrong. Context matters. The primary source of the objections to "concentration camp" seem to be coming from people who support their existence, and want a phrase that doesn't remind them what the camps really are.

LogGrad98 said:
I see this at work a lot where people who have an axe to grind are happy to fight over semantics rather than address the issue itself. It's aggravating to see so much time wasted on that kind of an argument. I usually cut right through it and bring everyone back to topic so that experience is probably bleeding over into my take on this situation.
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However, some actors in politics rely on using these distractions, because they last thing they want to do is fix the problem.
 
One Brow said:
People going to detention for doing something wrong. People who have tried to claim asylum and wound up in a concentration camp haven't done anything wrong. Context matters. The primary source of the objections to "concentration camp" seem to be coming from people who support their existence, and want a phrase that doesn't remind them what the camps really are.



However, some actors in politics rely on using these distractions, because they last thing they want to do is fix the problem.
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That's exactly my point, exactly. That's why indulging in an argument over semantics is like wrestling a pig in the mud. It allows the distraction they want.
 
LogGrad98 said:
That's exactly my point, exactly. That's why indulging in an argument over semantics is like wrestling a pig in the mud. It allows the distraction they want.
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I think you are missing that distraction isn't the main reason for this argument. Words matter, and whitewashing what's going on at the border is something that needs to be fought against. And frankly any conversation about this issue is one worth having, as it brings attention to something those in power would love to sweep under the rug.
 
Zombie said:
I think you are missing that distraction isn't the main reason for this argument. Words matter, and whitewashing what's going on at the border is something that needs to be fought against. And frankly any conversation about this issue is one worth having, as it brings attention to something those in power would love to sweep under the rug.
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I guess we can agree to disagree.
 
LogGrad98 said:
That's exactly my point, exactly. That's why indulging in an argument over semantics is like wrestling a pig in the mud. It allows the distraction they want.
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There will always be something else they can create a distraction over.
 
LogGrad98 said:
Yes so why indulge them. Need to bypass as many as possible imo.
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I don't think AOC used the term "concentration camp" to indulge a argument over semantics, she used it because it's accurate. Maybe direct your ire towards those who take issue with that (and consider why).
 
Zombie said:
I don't think AOC used the term "concentration camp" to indulge a argument over semantics, she used it because it's accurate. Maybe direct your ire towards those who take issue with that (and consider why).
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Of course she didn't indulge it, she used it to get a response, which she got. She was tm trying to be inflammatory to get people riled up, which is my point, that it is counterproductive to engage in an argument over semantics, but that's what she started, so that's what she has. My position is that is counterproductive.
 
LogGrad98 said:
Of course she didn't indulge it, she used it to get a response, which she got. She was tm trying to be inflammatory to get people riled up, which is my point, that it is counterproductive to engage in an argument over semantics, but that's what she started, so that's what she has. My position is that is counterproductive.
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Right, you assume she was trying to rile people up, rather than simply using a term that accurately describes the situation. Makes sense.
 
Zombie said:
Right, you assume she was trying to rile people up, rather than simply using a term that accurately describes the situation. Makes sense.
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Why does that make sense? Please tell me my deepest feelings and opinions on AOC? I am going by the Twitter storm alone and if you can't see at least a hint of that intention in her communication you are severely biased to the point of blindness. I know almost nothing about her but that's what her Twitter rant looked like to me, going by that alone.
 
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