Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (democratic socialist) wins NY primary

[One Brow]

This whole thing is a tough nut to crack.

I completely agree. The problem is that oppression and injustice starts out when people are young, preventing them from getting qualifications that allow for advancement, and that it's uneven in application, so some people are hurt worse than others. You won't ever address inequality in management without addressing it in housing, childhood nutrition, safety, education, etc.

 

[One Brow]

I'm glad you pulled the quotes out-- everybody can decide for themselves whether I was referring to "a study that looked at the discrimination of black politicians vs. female ones." Hilarious that you think that these excerpts work in your favour-- power to you.

Everyone can also decide whether you were speaking to "... to academic literature in the specific context of female vs black politicians", since you were speaking about politicians and the academic literature in consecutive clauses in the same sentence.

After I brought it up.

That was implied by the use of "acknowledged". Were you not aware of that, or did you feel the need to crow a little more?

For you to obscure, and attempt to equivocate elected representatives from regions where black people are the majority and select a black person to send to congress, vs the Senate where each state (none of which possess a numerical black majority) sends 2 people to represent them is.......Goebbelsian. If this is the standard of intellectual honesty that I'm working with, I see no point in discussing this with you further.

I am not aware of how stating that neither of us has the calculation for a confounding factor, when we both acknowledge the existence of it, is anything other than straight-forward.

I listed it as a manifestation, which it is. It isn't a paper on the mechanism in which discrimination differently impacts black people from white women.

I see. You could not find a paper directly supporting your claim, you listed a paper not making that claim, and said it was an obvious manifestation.

Yes, but when things multiply, are they multiplying as constant numerals? Or are the numbers that are multiplying different from factor to factor? Congrats on engaging with a context at the narrowest ****ing level.

I know a narrower one. The level where you think there is some sort of research on which disadvantaged groups suffer more from their specific group identity than other disadvantaged groups, and claim that this knowledge is so commonly understood in the academic community that asking for evidence is equivalent to denying climate change.

See you round the water cooler.

 

[One Brow]

Dalamon and One Brow don't get along?

I love both of those guys.

If you can't fight with family, why practice on strangers?

 

[One Brow]

The top 1% paid a higher share of the FIT than the bottom 90% did. The top 50% paid for 97.3% of all individual income tax. But the rich need to pay their fair share!!

The top 50% has 80% of the income. After you allow for a minimum amount, say $10,000, not taxed by anyone, that rises to over 85%. Considering that they get the most indirect benefits from taxation (social stability, compliant workforce, etc.), 97% of the burden seems pretty fair.

 

[One Brow]

I get people out here to work that last a day or two, and say it’s not worth working that hard because they’d rather just be on welfare. “If I make too much I lose my free healthcare.” Meanwhile I get to bust my *** to try to make a lot of money and pay for those wastes of life. Because somebody has to pay for them, do y’all understand that?

Just think: if they got free healthcare, they would be more likely to stay and work for the extra money.

 

[One Brow]

Before I’m going to let the government run all of these programs, I’d first like to see them run their current ones well. Or should we just imagine they’ll do better with more? I’d like to see it happen first.

As well as what? Any Fortune 500 will have similar amounts of waste. It doesn't become news because only the stockholders are on the hook, and corporate executives go out of their way to hide from them.

 

[Archie Moses]

How does the government find the money to pay for unlimited military spending?

By borrowing it.

AmIwight?

 

[RJF]

The top 50% has 80% of the income. After you allow for a minimum amount, say $10,000, not taxed by anyone, that rises to over 85%. Considering that they get the most indirect benefits from taxation (social stability, compliant workforce, etc.), 97% of the burden seems pretty fair.

You obviously missed the point. As it stands now they’re paying 97.3% but they need to pay their “fair share”. Do you not see the irony??

 

[One Brow]

You obviously missed the point. As it stands now they’re paying 97.3% but they need to pay their “fair share”. Do you not see the irony??

You mean, the irony that they gain the most from the US system, so they should shoulder most of the cost? Yeah, I see that.

 

[Archie Moses]

Archie, do you realize we can all list a dozen democratically socialist countries who all exhibit much better quality of life in every metric you could conjure than the united states. if you're gonna respond with "BUT THEY'RE SMALL COUNTRIES", ask yourself if you've ever considered the population of Venezuela, and why the answer is no, and what impact those you've read have had on the myopia that one then develops.

Afterwards, read Edward Said. I'm logging out for the day.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jeffre...dic-countries-are-not-socialist/#7b1f023774ad

“‭I know that some people in the US associate the Nordic model with some sort of socialism. Therefore I would like to make one thing clear. Denmark is far from a socialist planned economy. Denmark is a market economy.”
- Danish PM Lars Løkke Rasmussen

Not even the democratic socialist countries want to say they’re socialist

 

[Siro]

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jeffre...dic-countries-are-not-socialist/#7b1f023774ad

“‭I know that some people in the US associate the Nordic model with some sort of socialism. Therefore I would like to make one thing clear. Denmark is far from a socialist planned economy. Denmark is a market economy.”
- Danish PM Lars Løkke Rasmussen

Not even the democratic socialist countries want to say they’re socialist

We've discussed this. All developed countries are capitalist. They all have socialist subsystems. The US is already democratic socialist. Scandinavians are just a bit more so.

 

[Archie Moses]

We've discussed this. All developed countries are capitalist. They all have socialist subsystems. The US is already democratic socialist. Scandinavians are just a bit more so.

Well, I certainly haven't.

Tbh, like Ocasio-Cortez said once, I'm really not an expert on the matter.