Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (democratic socialist) wins NY primary

[LogGrad98]

This has been pointed out already but when you are held in "detention" it's generally meant as a punishment for some offense you've committed. This is not the case, many of these people are simply asylum seekers.

Look up the conditions in those camps, specifically the so called "dog pound" and "ice boxes," as well as the separation of children and infants from their parents and then tell me concentration camp isn't an accurate description of what's going on.

And yet again I'll state I'm not arguing the definition, I'm arguing that arguing the definition is counterproductive. As we see in your fine example of continuing to argue the definition when I've already made it clear I find that a waste of time. So instead of discussing how to make it better you continue to try to convince a guy, who already said it is deplorable and needs to be fixed, that your definition is right.

 

[LogGrad98]

Because it doesn't matter how hard you try to avoid distractions over semantics or side issues, if one of the argument is determined to avoid discussing the central point, they will find a way to avoid it, no matter how much effort you make. So why bother?

Why bother what? Arguing with them or not arguing with them? Sounds like you are talking in circles. Did you actually come to agree with me but can't come to admit you might have changed your point of view?

 

[One Brow]

Now, of course I exexpe you to have a comeback along the lines of Zombie's response saying that it's just millions of idiots who like him.

I already said, "you do you". Why would I need any other response?

 

[One Brow]

Everyone has done something pretty ****** or said something pretty ******. When it's a comedian though, and you get offended, that's on you imo.

You seem awfully defensive about this for someone who has no problem with his behavior.

 

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I thought the proper reaction would be to fix it, ...

People will only fix it when they accept that it's wrong to begin with.

 

[Archie Moses]

You seem awfully defensive about this for someone who has no problem with his behavior.

Didn't you say he "saddened" you?

You seem to have have watched an awful lot of Tosh for someone who thinks he's dull.

 

[Archie Moses]

I already said, "you do you". Why would I need any other response?

I didn't know that you do you was an end all to conversation.

 

[One Brow]

Why bother what?

Why bother going out of your way to use neutral descriptions completely without a negative context when a) the people on the other side of your position will just find some other distraction anyhow (because they adamantly do not wish to discuss the actual problem honestly), and b) a negative context is appropriate? What do you actually gain?

 

[LogGrad98]

People will only fix it when they accept that it's wrong to begin with.

And arguing semantics is the best way to get the other politicians to agree with each other? As soon as you convince them all to label it they will get right on fixing it then? Didn't know it was that simple.

 

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Didn't you say he "saddened" you?

You seem to have have watched an awful lot of Tosh for someone who thinks he's dull.

A good five minutes or so. Nothing I hadn't heard before.

I didn't know that you do you was an end all to conversation.

I don't know why it was not an end to this conversation. What more are you looking for here?

 

[LogGrad98]

Why bother going out of your way to use neutral descriptions completely without a negative context when a) the people on the other side of your position will just find some other distraction anyhow (because they adamantly do not wish to discuss the actual problem honestly), and b) a negative context is appropriate? What do you actually gain?

So detention center to you sounds like a vacation? Why not call it a death camp then since if it takes a connotation with a more negative label, the more negative the better, right?

 

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And arguing semantics is the best way to get the other politicians to agree with each other?

Ocasio-Cortez did not start a semantics argument.

As soon as you convince them all to label it they will get right on fixing it then?

They will try to avoid fixing it regardless of label, so why worry about which label you use?