Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (democratic socialist) wins NY primary

[fishonjazz]

I couldn't be happier that I didn't get involved in any of this lol

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[Stoked]

I just don't understand this thinking. Anyone who does not want to be detained could accomplish that by simply avoid crossing the border illegally.

Whoops. I accidentally mixed her quote up with the quotes of so many others on the left who are constantly invoking comparisons to Hitler and Nazism.

I’m sorry you fail to understand how we act matters.

It’s a concentration camp.

 

[Archie Moses]

Correct, probably unintentionally.



Many of the people in there have done nothing illegal, so it's not a detention facility.



Since Ocasio-Cortez never mentioned Nazi concentration camps, that's a moot point.

I couldn't be happier that I didn't get involved in any of this lol

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Because you're the perfect bf, remember?

 

[One Brow]

1) Yes, I already noted that.
2) Then how do you explain this?
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/v..._years_if_we_dont_address_climate_change.html

What part do you think needs explaining? The part where she is giving commenting on the feelings of millenials?

 

[One Brow]

Actually it was the other way around. You couldn't be happy with the agree to disagree.

Yes, it is telling that you are saying, "You're right, but don't use that word because it riles people up", and somehow you think that is not tone-policing.

 

[One Brow]

Anyone who does not want to be detained could accomplish that by simply avoid crossing the border illegally.

Many of them crossed the border legally to apply for asylum, yet are in the concentration camps anyhow.

 

[LogGrad98]

I couldn't be happier that I didn't get involved in any of this lol

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Dude all I did was try to say I didn't think we should argue semantics, then got drawn into a 3 page argument about why they think we should argue semantics. **** me.

 

[LogGrad98]

Yes, it is telling that you are saying, "You're right, but don't use that word because it riles people up", and somehow you think that is not tone-policing.

I never said that. Again you are grasping at straws and putting words in my mouth. I said I think this argument is counterproductive and that was the primary reason she used that term. And that I think purposefully using inflammatory language is seldom the best way to get to a solution. I even expressed I was probably biased in that assertion because of my work experience.

But hey if you grasp at enough straws eventually you can still call yourself the most rational guy in the room, since that is the title you covet most.

 

[LogGrad98]

Yes, it is telling that you are saying, "You're right, but don't use that word because it riles people up", and somehow you think that is not tone-policing.

It's interesting that you interpret my saying that using that term is counterproductive to finding a solution as "don't use that word". I never said "don't use that word". I said I think that arguing about it is a waste of time. I guess that is a pretty big windmill to tilt at Don. I thought you were capable of more nuanced thought than that.

 

[LogGrad98]

I guess we can agree to disagree.

Just to make it known, I threw this out there like 4 pages ago. So I'll go back to this. I think it would be much more productive to engage in conversations around how to eliminate the camps or centers or whatever you want to call it than to engage in mud wrestling with the pigs about what to call it. I've had enough words forced into my mouth for today. Good night everyone.

 

[Deleted member 365]

I'm just saying that context matters, and in the context most people would identity with concentration camps what they are doing does not fit that context.

Don't get me wrong, it's still entirely unacceptable. But it doesn't make it better to over-sensationalize the situation by effectively Godwinning it. In fact that is a great way to stifle progress on resolving the issue due to shifting the focus away from the current reality and toward attacking and defending positions based on semantics and managing public opinion.

Let’s ask the actual Godwin what he thinks:

 

[Deleted member 365]

So if not concentration camps, what should we call them? Gulags? Internment camps where children die? Children killing camps (the pro life movement must be up in arms over this)?

Just what exactly does the right want to call their brilliant president’s network of camps staffed by our worst, holding refugees for far too long, and killing kids to send a message?