Magic and Bird don't cancel each other out. Magic beats Bird more often then not in big games-- 2 out of 3 finals and NCAA Finals.
All-Time NBA Draft Round 1: spycam1 vs. Jeffrey32
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Magic and Bird don't cancel each other out. Magic beats Bird more often then not in big games-- 2 out of 3 finals and NCAA Finals.
♪alt13
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spycam1
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Lmao @ thinking Kobe > Hakeem
spycam1
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Magic had Kareem. This time he doesn't, and Bird has Hakeem.
spycam1
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So now we're using ad hominem arguments?
Are you arguing that Lakers had a better team than Celtics? Completely disagree. Bird had McHale and Parish. Lakers and Celtics both had the OG Big 3s. They were as equal as rival teams could get. Magic just was able to outdo Bird 2 out of three times head-to-head and also got to more Finals.
Plus, Magic didn't have Kareem at MSU.
Whose character am I attacking?
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Kobe is definitely superior to Wade IMO.
Check the list. Kobe has more than Hakeem in almost every major category and ties him in most of the others. Hakeem's only advantage is DPOY, but Kobe has more Defensive first teams. Kobe is #2 SG all-time, Hakeem is not maybe Top 5 center of all time (Wilt, Kareem, Russell, Shaq, and #5 Hakeem).
KOBE
5× NBA champion (2000–2002, 2009–2010)
2× NBA Finals MVP (2009–2010)
NBA Most Valuable Player (2008)
17× NBA All-Star (1998, 2000–2015)
4× NBA All-Star Game MVP (2002, 2007, 2009, 2011)
11× All-NBA First Team (2002–2004, 2006–2013)
2× All-NBA Second Team (2000–2001)
2× All-NBA Third Team (1999, 2005)
9× NBA All-Defensive First Team (2000, 2003–2004, 2006–2011)
3× NBA All-Defensive Second Team (2001–2002, 2012)
NBA All-Rookie Second Team (1997)
2× NBA scoring champion (2006–2007)
#3 scorer all time and counting
HAKEEM
2× NBA champion (1994–1995)
2× NBA Finals MVP (1994–1995)
NBA Most Valuable Player (1994)
12× NBA All-Star (1985–1990, 1992–1997)
6× All-NBA First Team (1987–1989, 1993–1994, 1997)
3× All-NBA Second Team (1986, 1990, 1996)
3× All-NBA Third Team (1991, 1995, 1999)
2× NBA Defensive Player of the Year (1993–1994)
5× All-Defensive First Team (1987–1988, 1990, 1993-1994)
4× All-Defensive Second Team (1985, 1991, 1996–1997)
NBA All-Rookie First Team (1985)
2x NBA rebounding leader (1989-1990)
3× NBA blocks leader (1990-1991, 1993)
NBA all-time blocks leader
Ya, nobody is gonna buy that argument. I'd take Hakeem any day of the week.
Hotdog
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This is a really tough argument.
But really these teams shouldn't even look the way they do. Siro foolishly traded Kobe to Jeffery for Reggie Miller and Tony Parker. So he shouldn't even be there. And Spy robbed some people in trades too by getting Bird, and I think he traded for Wade too, and snaked Rodman.
Seriously ridiculous. That's why I was against the whole idea of trading. You always get clowns making bad trades and helping out people, creating an unfair advantage.
What's the point of doing this if you are just get dumb asses screwing the whole thing up?
But really these teams shouldn't even look the way they do. Siro foolishly traded Kobe to Jeffery for Reggie Miller and Tony Parker. So he shouldn't even be there. And Spy robbed some people in trades too by getting Bird, and I think he traded for Wade too, and snaked Rodman.
Seriously ridiculous. That's why I was against the whole idea of trading. You always get clowns making bad trades and helping out people, creating an unfair advantage.
What's the point of doing this if you are just get dumb asses screwing the whole thing up?