All-Time NBA Draft Round One--HottKinkkkk vs. addicitionary

[Fabtrey]

Dude the rest of the Heat were baby oldies pooping crap all over the Heat arena! Tell me one player from the Heat that is better than my roster' s piece in that position. Bosh sucked. Wade was already dead. Ray was, well, about to retire. And the rest were the rest. No biggie.

What kind of a comparison is that? We had made the ALL TIME greatest, remember??

bosh is a max cat, 24/11 guy. bron has that kinda effect on people. just watch how kevin love's stat will drastically go down with bron. wade was still 'almost elite' till their 2nd championship.

watch wade bouncing back and put up better number now that bron is gone.

 

[addictionary]

bosh is a max cat, 24/11 guy. bron has that kinda effect on people. just watch how kevin love's stat will drastically go down with bron. wade was still 'almost elite' till their 2nd championship.

watch wade bouncing back and put up better number now that bron is gone.

Don't get me started on the Cavs move. I hated it. And my playmaker is Cooze. Not Lebron James. James is a point forward, who can step in for the job. No need to overuse anyone when you have some many good of them.

 

[The Midnight]

Don't get me started on the Cavs move. I hated it. And my playmaker is Cooze. Not Lebron James. James is a point forward, who can step in for the job. No need to overuse anyone when you have some many good of them.

Hey bro can you explain to me how Bob Cousy shot only 37.5% FG ? (not even counting 3pt shot as it didn't exist in those days)

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/c/cousybo01.html

He did average 7.5 assists but there must be more to the 37.5% FG number? I'm not down on him or anything just thought it was really curious how a guy can shoot that low of a percentage.

It's a real head scratcher for me.

 

[addictionary]

Hey bro can you explain to me how Bob Cousy shot only 37.5% FG ? (not even counting 3pt shot as it didn't exist in those days)

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/c/cousybo01.html

He did average 7.5 assists but there must be more to the 37.5% FG number? I'm not down on him or anything just thought it was really curious how a guy can shoot that low of a percentage.

It's a real head scratcher for me.

Sure kkk.

Cooze actually had a nice touch. But guards always had to shoot harder selections in the game. Especially in the time when height differential was major and long players exploited the advantage more, they had higher ratios even though they simply could not shoot.

On the other hand, basketball was very different before 1960. The game basically was being played on being able to get as much as shot attempts as you can, and shot selection was not the primary choice of concern compared to the mentality of later. Bob Cousy was a passer, but even he did average about 17 shots per game. You call a guy black hole for doing so in our day. But he was not, instead, the entire way of the game being played was different. Cooze actually shot around league average throughout his career.
I picked this up from somewhere it should make it look more clear:

1950-51: league average fg%: 35.7% cousy's %: 35.2%
1951-52: league average fg%: 36.7% cousy's %: 36.9%
1952-53: league average fg%: 37.0% cousy's %: 35.2%
1953-54: league average fg%: 37.2% cousy's %: 38.5%
1954-55: league average fg%: 38.5% cousy's %: 39.7%
1955-56: league average fg%: 38.7% cousy's %: 36.0%
1956-57: league average fg%: 38.0% cousy's %: 37.8%
1957-58: league average fg%: 38.3% cousy's %: 35.3%
1958-59: league average fg%: 39.5% cousy's %: 38.4%
1959-60: league average fg%: 41.0% cousy's %: 38.4%
1960-61: league average fg%: 41.5% cousy's %: 37.1%
1961-62: league average fg%: 42.6% cousy's %: 39.1%
1962-63: league average fg%: 44.1% cousy's %: 39.7%

I wish you had the time to check out my video of Cooze not being able to miss from the line in a movie. His talents would create wonders in today's game, I believe.

 

[The Midnight]

^^^

OK thanks. Still seems like he's always below league average though - but I guess his lack of height might have been an issue?

 

[addictionary]

^^^

OK thanks. Still seems like he's always below league average though - but I guess his lack of height might have been an issue?

Not really. His height was good enough to shoot good and smaller palms instead of overgrown hands like many centers' lead to better shooting because of the ability to clutch and weight the ball in a more sensitive manner. Which one is easier do you think to manipulate in a basketball shot; a baseball, or a basketball? Also, Cooze was from a time that he had no heroes of his own to imitate. So motivation was solely "put the ball in the basket". Run pass shoot. And so on. But the things he did with his hands absolutely revolutionized the playmaker position and the game itself.

 

[NUMBERICA]

new basketball > old basketball

Sorry.

 

[ema]

new basketball > old basketball

Sorry.

Doesn't mean the players from the old basketball couldn't play well in the new basketball.

 

[addictionary]

There is no doubt that the new game is at a higher level of its evolution. But what we did here was an All time greatests draft. What I tried to do was to pick the best players I can out of the ones I loved. Otherwise we would do a Current NBA instead of this. The logic here should be to emphasize the greatness of these historical figures. I thought I had formed a great team full of great names that would receive a lot of respect, but I guess I didn't know the older guys were long forgotten by many. Still I think I should be glad to hear the positive ones I did. And I still believe the roster I picked would eat kkk's alive.

 

[spycam1]

There is no doubt that the new game is at a higher level of its evolution. But what we did here was an All time greatests draft. What I tried to do was to pick the best players I can out of the ones I loved. Otherwise we would do a Current NBA instead of this. The logic here should be to emphasize the greatness of these historical figures. I thought I had formed a great team full of great names that would receive a lot of respect, but I guess I didn't know the older guys were long forgotten by many. Still I think I should be glad to hear the positive ones I did. And I still believe the roster I picked would eat kkk's alive.

No, it is (and has always been) simply about a theoretical match of skills. Two teams going head to head. It's not a competition of picking a team of players who had the biggest impact on the game or something. It's the same concept as when we do the Current Players Draft, only you can pick anyone in history.

 

[The Midnight]

There is no doubt that the new game is at a higher level of its evolution. But what we did here was an All time greatests draft. What I tried to do was to pick the best players I can out of the ones I loved. Otherwise we would do a Current NBA instead of this. The logic here should be to emphasize the greatness of these historical figures. I thought I had formed a great team full of great names that would receive a lot of respect, but I guess I didn't know the older guys were long forgotten by many. Still I think I should be glad to hear the positive ones I did. And I still believe the roster I picked would eat kkk's alive.

I don't think anyone is saying you don't have talent on your team. I think they're saying that with LeBron on your team you do need players who could give you something different, who could space the floor and hit jumpers and 3pt shots. If Dr. J can't hit them, Cousy can't hit them, and you can't count on Kemp or Sabonis, then you're putting too much pressure on LeBron.


The whole has to be worth more than the sum of its parts, if you know what that means.

 

[addictionary]

I don't think anyone is saying you don't have talent on your team. I think they're saying that with LeBron on your team you do need players who could give you something different, who could space the floor and hit jumpers and 3pt shots. If Dr. J can't hit them, Cousy can't hit them, and you can't count on Kemp or Sabonis, then you're putting too much pressure on LeBron.


The whole has to be worth more than the sum of its parts, if you know what that means.

I had my share.