Jazz Insider
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^i believe we have a test case for dis scenario. i call it Project One Love.
Am I racist?
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Jazz Insider
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i read a study that being addicted to alcohol and drugs n ish like dat can be passed down within yo dna.
so why not being addicted to hatin black people.
so why not being addicted to hatin black people.
b_line
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i disagree with your definition of race. How would you explain variations in human appearance? Would you rather call it a breed like dogs or horses? There are different schools of thought on race being a social construct or not, but the undeniable facts are that there are heritable traits that differentiate us from one another. Some groups have light skin, some dark. Some are taller on average, some shorter. Physical dimensions and traits (at least heritable ones) are in no way shape or form a social construct.
Everyone is different. Race is most definitely a social construct, though. Humans put people into groups that they both create parameters for and label.
b_line
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In my mind, the idea that you present that the genes for intelligence are the same throughout all humans points to a god governing this part of being human. If that is the case, that is great. But scientifically, it would be possible for a group of humans to have evolved in different facets of anatomy enough to have surpassed others in the race for intelligence. I am not saying this is the case, but it is a distinct possibility. Also, globalization will have already or will shortly equalize most of these evolutionary advantages anyhow, so it's not a particularly meaningful argument that one race is more advanced than the other.
Jazz Insider
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its pretty simple i think. u laid out traits, for example.
can u assign any of those specific traits to any one race? no. not with any certainty.
'on average' is a qualifier to justify a social construct.
b_line
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I still disagree that race is a social construct I the strictest sense of the word. If there are groups that display homogeneity of physical traits over one another, what else are you going to call them? Ethnic group? Ok. Call them that. But the idea that there are not heritable differences is wrong. Two black people who mate are not going to produce an Asian in the same way that two white people who mate will not produce a black baby. In this sense, race has absolutely noting to do with social constructs. It has everything to do with who their ancestors were, and what heritable traits they left for their offspring.
I think it is possible when you look at intelligence from the point of view that I do. I do believe that some kids are born more intelligent than others. Let's my natural ability to learn is superior to my brother's for instance. I don't think it's very likely that one particular group would have superior intelligence than another, however. Maybe more of a random thing.
Race is something totally created by society. The birth-giving scenarios you described have everything to do with genetics and biology and nothing to do with race.
Jazz Insider
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are most succefull peoples more smarter than most unsuccsful peoples? for the most part, i mean. not accountin for peoples who became successful clearly cuz of someone else or by chance like paris hiltons.
b_line
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Yes, you can absolutely with certainty appy physical characteristics to certain groups with plenty if certainty to be scientifically correct. To infer otherwise is ridiculous. That is like saying you are going to breed two chihuahuas and have the outcome be a border collie. Not that humans are as genetically dissimilar as different breeds of dogs, but they are far enough apart that the genetic variation of two black people producing offspring has no chance of producing the same genetic match as two Asian people.
b_line
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We disagree on the definition of the word.