America is great and everything is NOT Pres. Trump's fault thread

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do i have those liberties or not?

the lberty to steal my money! -- Taxes are not theft, if you mean taxes.
the liberty to censor my speech, whith what they deem hate speech -- Who is censoring you? No one.
the liberty to force me into stupid healthcare plans -- No one has been forced to use any health care plan, except by monetary necessity
the liberty to not allow me to on a gun! -- Lot's of liberals own guns

As I said, this is a guilty pleasure.

 

[DutchJazzer]

You ducked this question before.

There are three choices:
1) If you don't contribute to healthcare insurance, and you get sick beyond your immediate means to pay, you die.
2) If you don't contribute to healthcare insurance, and you get sick beyond your immediate means to pay, you get treatment anyhow, and everyone else winds up paying for your healthcare.
3) You contribute to healthcare insurance.

I choose 3) as the least terrible. What's your choice?

i assume their is LIBERTY!
so i tell you to **** of with those 3 options and i chose option number 4
DON'T worry about my health, I wont pay anything to anyone. but if i get sick I PAY the people uout of my own goddamned pocket, nobody else has to pay! and maybe if you turn away form the evil side you can come visit me in the hospital all it will cost you is lil money for flowers or chocolate. or you have your kids make a get well soon card!


but in your liberalized word the are only those 3 options right! hey fun fact hitler was the first one to give universal healthcare!

 

[cowhide]

I thought I would start a positive thread about how well the country is doing right now and share the good things that are happening and will happen in the future.

Here are a few things to start:

RECORD 156,562,000 EMPLOYED
OCTOBER JOBS: +250K...

ECONOMY ADDING 1,000 MANUFACTURING JOBS PER DAY...

HISPANIC UNEMPLOYMENT ALL TIME LOW...

WAGE GAINS STRONGEST IN DECADE...

Record low emissions right now.

Have a great day everyone! You too liberals!

Yet you problem spent eight years blaming Obama for everything. Giving him no credit for anything. The economy was doing just fine when Trump became president even though he thrashed it when running. Even to the point of saying Obama was fudging the numbers so he could win election. So why would I give Trump credit for anything he claims he has accomplished. Funny thing Trump is still out sourcing many of his business while his supporters look the other way and blame the mean liberals. The reality is that unless you are rich your life isn't that much improved. Inflation has taken away the crumbs I got in my middle class tax break. Funny right after Trump passed his tax reform my landlord (GOP) raised my rent $100 because his cost were going up so he wanted me to pay for them. Wait for the republicans when they try to strip Medicare and SSN. I want to see the reaction from his supporters. Still waiting for the cheap and best healthcare he promised. Just told my healthcare cost are going up 27 percent. I thought Trump was suppose to stop this from happening. Tariffs have had a mix bag. Dairy farmers are struggling, Ford said they lost a billion dollars. Other companies are still staying over seas like Harley Davidson. Low emission.. please explain how Trump has done anything to protect the environment. You could challenge Sarah Huckabee for your delusional spin on Trump's "success".

 

[DutchJazzer]

the lberty to steal my money! -- Taxes are not theft, if you mean taxes.
the liberty to censor my speech, whith what they deem hate speech -- Who is censoring you? No one.
the liberty to force me into stupid healthcare plans -- No one has been forced to use any health care plan, except by monetary necessity
the liberty to not allow me to on a gun! -- Lot's of liberals own guns

As I said, this is a guilty pleasure.

liberals want tax for everything. tacation is theft
liberals are working on censorship. the consittution seems to block them
liberals forced the whole of America (and europe) into healthcare plans. if you refused they took more of your money
liberals want to ban guns like that black govenror cnadidate that refuses to accept her loss!

that is what liberals stand for!

 

[cowhide]

I agree with the title. America is a great and every problem is definitely not Trumps. The vasts majority of problems in this world are not Trumps fault and have nothing to do with him.

Trump is not making America great again because it already was and it keeps getting better despite him.

The world is becoming a better place slowly but surely. We are murdering less people and letting people live their lives how they want more and more. Trump is fighting the live their lives part but thats okay, it just means more people standing up for themselves and others.

I think Trump has been great for this country. He has caused more people to pay attention to politics and give a **** about things around them. More people are united and caring in spite of him and some because of him. His policies have set some stuff back but nothing that wont be undone when he is gone.

The only real thing he ****ed up badly is pushing a supreme court justice in that has a agenda and that is not what we need in that position. They should be more neutral and not someone who is going to try and push their parties agenda. But that goes both ways.

Its also weird how much we credit or blame we give the presidents for the Economy. They have very little impact on that. Yet its the main thing a lot of people judge them on. Also some of the changes they do make and the influence they do have is very delayed and often the wrong person is getting the blame or credit for the economy. The fact that we credit Clinton for how great the economy was and blame Bush is really just luck or unlucky for them.

Seriously, why doesn't Bush get the blame. He increased spending, hiding a lot of it and then made tax cuts instead of financing his war. Trump has been a disaster because he is a horrible human being who gives other horrible human beings confidence that they can act horribly. Have you not been watching the news. People are getting shot ever day in America. Not just in the inter cities. It may take decades to undo the damage this administration is doing to the environment. Your post is slanted to your GOP views. Why does Bush get blamed? Are you serious?

The GOP is letting people live their own lives as they wish? Man just stop it. You are making my side hurt? Have you see all the laws that the GOP have created to actually negatively affect people lives.. Fake voter fraud leading to restrictive laws to vote, shutting down voting in minority neighborhoods, taking away women's right to choose and writing anti-gay legislation, attacking unions and working class people. Attacking people's right to protest while supporting Nazis and other dictators who oppress and kill their citizens. Claiming Federal over reach so they can justify taking national parks away from the people to sell off to the highest bidder while increasing park fees. I can understand trying to find the positive in life but making stuff up to do so is being delusional.

 

[cowhide]

You're kidding about not hearing Trump tell his followers to misbehave, right? There's video of him telling people at his rallies to beat up protesters.

There is also video of him telling policeman to rough people when they arrest them and throw them in the police car.

 

[cowhide]

liberals want tax for everything. tacation is theft
liberals are working on censorship. the consittution seems to block them
liberals forced the whole of America (and europe) into healthcare plans. if you refused they took more of your money
liberals want to ban guns like that black govenror cnadidate that refuses to accept her loss!

that is what liberals stand for!

Really, your little post is filled with neo-con lies. No substance at all. Both parties like to spend it is only the GOP who doesn't want to pay i.e. Iraq war, tax cuts.
Kicking a person off of a private site is not censorship. Not all speech is protected if you actually knew anything about the US constitution.
Liberals do not want to ban guns. Many liberals own guns. What liberals want is a safer society with less guns. The constitution intent was never to allow citizens to stockpile arms for a war or own weapons used for war.
Neo-cons force me to pay for crap I don't want like war, religious propaganda and they take it right from my taxes. I rather have healthcare then take my taxes to go kill people in other countries who did nothing to me. i.e Iraq.

 

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DON'T worry about my health, I wont pay anything to anyone. but if i get sick I PAY the people uout of my own goddamned pocket, nobody else has to pay!

What if you don't have the $1 million dollars a bone-marrow transplant costs? Do we let you die instead of getting you that transplant? I mean, for the USA median wage, that's only your entire salary for 20 years!

By all means, keep ranting on stupidly about health care costs. It's amusing.

but in your liberalized word the are only those 3 options right! hey fun fact hitler was the first one to give universal healthcare!

I was not aware "liberal" meant "having worked over a decade in the health care industry".

Germany started a universal health care program under Bismarck, not Hitler. More than half of Europe had a version of it before WWI.

Hey, fun fact! Hitler owned a dog. Why not use that to attack dog ownership?

 

[Alfalfa]

I suppose truth hurts.

 

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liberals want tax for everything. tacation is theft
liberals are working on censorship. the consittution seems to block them
liberals forced the whole of America (and europe) into healthcare plans. if you refused they took more of your money
liberals want to ban guns like that black govenror cnadidate that refuses to accept her loss!

that is what liberals stand for!

Taking advantage of a what a government does and refusing to pay taxes owed is theft. Most people consider the ACLU, one of the foremost protectors of free speech, to be a liberal organization. Health care plans are how really sick people get medical care. Background checks are not bans.

So, that's four lies in four sentences. Do we call that "DutchJazzer"?

 

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It's about time, right?