America is great and everything is NOT Pres. Trump's fault thread

[gandalfe]

I dont know what a peacenik is but i do remember seeing multiple posts by idestroyedthetoilet talking about how trump is all about peace and should get a nobel award for all the peace he has created.
Maybe that is what was being refered too.

Yes, that's what I was referring to.

 

[str8line]

So are you arguing that we shouldn't be happy about a robust economy because someone maybe crapped on your guy for a while so he or we do not deserve to be happy about it? I do not see your point other than to argue that Trump is evil, which he probably is (I think it is more likely he is just an *******, but that is me), and **** on people trying to find something positive to discuss. I guess if that gets you going in the morning. You could start a thread called "**** all over people who try to take a positive outlook when they probably maybe crapped all over ma boi Obama, so **** them." Sounds productive.

He was trolling(the OP), ya jackass. And cowhide made great points(a few out of a seemingly endless list) of why focusing on the "robust" economy is horse pucky. But again, go ahead and celebrate your riches(probably poorer than before Trump) while America burns.

 

[Gameface]

 

[Joe Bagadonuts]

I dont know what a peacenik is but i do remember seeing multiple posts by idestroyedthetoilet talking about how trump is all about peace and should get a nobel award for all the peace he has created.
Maybe that is what was being refered too.

I've got a feeling he was being facetious. Trump doesn't deserve a Nobel Prize any more than Obama did.

 

[fishonjazz]

I've got a feeling he was being facetious. Trump doesn't deserve a Nobel Prize any more than Obama did.

Trump doesnt deserve a cracker jacks prize

 

[LogGrad98]

He was trolling(the OP), ya jackass. And cowhide made great points(a few out of a seemingly endless list) of why focusing on the "robust" economy is horse pucky. But again, go ahead and celebrate your riches(probably poorer than before Trump) while America burns.

Well trolling is certainly a good reason to derail the thread. My apologies.

 

[idestroyedthetoilet]

Trump doesnt deserve a cracker jacks prize

He's accomplished or put on the path to accomplish what he set out for. America is in an overall good place right now. We bicker over injustices that were once much larger. Hays, women, blacks all have a voice now. It's time to stop the race baiting and attacking those considered once the powerful - H.A.R.M. hetero, Anglo, rich males. Everyone who in one of those categories or related to them is now blasted for having an opinion as if they are in all 4, and guilty by association. They need to shut up and listen, regardless. Your opinion is all that matters and they do not. It is no longer MLK, Jr.'s dream of content of character but only color of your skin.

Trump reached out to that crowd and rightfully won. Dislike him for it all you want but those currently vacating the power vacuum once occupied H.A.R.M are now using the same power tactics they supposedly are fighting against. A vote/hate against Trump is de facto support of illiberal powerful elite groupthink. I'll vote for Trump as a true liberal and what that means. Give him cracker jacks and milk n cookies.

 

[gandalfe]

I dont know what a peacenik is but i do remember seeing multiple posts by idestroyedthetoilet talking about how trump is all about peace and should get a nobel award for all the peace he has created.
Maybe that is what was being refered too.

Yes, that's what I was referring to.

 

[One Brow]

It's time to stop the race baiting and attacking those considered once the powerful - H.A.R.M. hetero, Anglo, rich males. Everyone who in one of those categories or related to them is now blasted for having an opinion as if they are in all 4, and guilty by association. They need to shut up and listen, regardless. Your opinion is all that matters and they do not. It is no longer MLK, Jr.'s dream of content of character but only color of your skin.

The very use of "H.A.R.M." as an acronym makes me think you may not not entirely serious with this rant, but since it relfects how many other people seem to feel, I will respond seriously anyhow. I don't like the acronym, so I will just use "the currently privileged".

As someone in three of those categories (looking at it from a global status, probably all four) as well as many other categories you did not bother to mention, may I just say perhaps you should stop your whining, enjoy the fact that you are still on the top of the privilege pyramid, listen to people when they describe the real problems that you will never have to face, and maybe once in a white use the tremendous social power you possess as a result of these privileges to lift other people up instead of worrying about how seriously they take you. I know it's hard to believe that the struggles of other people dwarf the ones you have faced (because, who struggles more than you, right?), but it is nonetheless true.

Trump reached out to that crowd and rightfully won. Dislike him for it all you want but those currently vacating the power vacuum once occupied H.A.R.M are now using the same power tactics they supposedly are fighting against.

How do you vacate a vacuum? I assume you meant "occupying".

I haven't seen the currently privileged offered lower salaries for equivalent job histories, face harsher treatment at every step of the criminal justice system, endure housing discrimination (much less legal housing discrimination), face employers who can fire you just for who you are, etc. Until the currently privileged face some of those tactics, those trying to occupy a small portion of the power structure the currently privileged have not clung on to are by no means using the same tactics that were used on them.

I'll vote for Trump as a true liberal and what that means.

The ability to continue to access social privilege that Trump tries to deny to those without it?

 

[idestroyedthetoilet]

The very use of "H.A.R.M." as an acronym makes me think you may not not entirely serious with this rant, but since it relfects how many other people seem to feel, I will respond seriously anyhow. I don't like the acronym, so I will just use "the currently privileged".

As someone in three of those categories (looking at it from a global status, probably all four) as well as many other categories you did not bother to mention, may I just say perhaps you should stop your whining, enjoy the fact that you are still on the top of the privilege pyramid, listen to people when they describe the real problems that you will never have to face, and maybe once in a white use the tremendous social power you possess as a result of these privileges to lift other people up instead of worrying about how seriously they take you. I know it's hard to believe that the struggles of other people dwarf the ones you have faced (because, who struggles more than you, right?), but it is nonetheless true.



How do you vacate a vacuum? I assume you meant "occupying".

I haven't seen the currently privileged offered lower salaries for equivalent job histories, face harsher treatment at every step of the criminal justice system, endure housing discrimination (much less legal housing discrimination), face employers who can fire you just for who you are, etc. Until the currently privileged face some of those tactics, those trying to occupy a small portion of the power structure the currently privileged have not clung on to are by no means using the same tactics that were used on them.



The ability to continue to access social privilege that Trump tries to deny to those without it?

Self-righteous indignation chock full of assumptions. You know my privilege and act as I and others are unaware of what station in life we were born into. Since you know my privilege so much better than I you need to preach to me about my shortcomings, and how my "tremendous social power" needs to be used for your greater good. Is that a joke? You know I have some magical, ungodly tremendous power and you know that I dont use what I've been blessed with to try and do good, right?

Your philosophy is a broken one and the reason a huge voting block feels disenfranchised. I am not in that voting block but only attempt to explain what they feel. Continue on ignoring them, preaching to them that they need to shut up and listen to you because their privileged voice does not matter and you know more and know better, and your all knowing insight understands their life better than them.

A broken philosophy built on assumptions and self righteousness has no foundation. Neither does the intersectionality that you preach as when boiled down divisiveness is it's only tenet.

 

[idestroyedthetoilet]

OB, you have a long history of showing you ascribe to a philosophy that sees good in pushing one side only and always, as the greater benefits of castigating and sounding out The Other will pay off. You rarely, if ever, stick up for injustices done to the other side and when you do it is as muted and unemotional as possible. "I agree". You went on a month long tirade against Archie for only posting one side's view, which is something you have done for the decade that I've been posting here. Were you angry that someone else used your tactics or trying to shame and crowd out, or both? Or simply hypocritical with your self righteousness? Those are rhetorical.

I disagree with what you've portrayed as a philosophy.

 

[idestroyedthetoilet]

@Archie Moses asked for a self ban? What a *****.