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An Alleged 1953 UFO Crash and Burial Near Garrison, Utah

I saw a UFO while camping in the La Sal mountains near Moab. No ****. It was at night and the light moved around the the sky instantaneously, one minute in the north sky, the next in the west sky, etc. Me and my buddy stared at this multi-colored light for at least 10 minutes, including through our binoculars. It was awesome as hell.

This makes me think of the time I saw a UFO in Provo that was above the eastern side of Mount Timpanogos.

I was in the backseat of a car with a friend's friend. We both saw it. We both freaked the **** out. We both were made fun of and came across as crazy to the girls we met up with at IHOP.

I get it. I wouldn't believe it too.

Basically, what we saw was a light on top of the mountain. At first I thought it was a campfire light or possibly a four wheeler's headlight - it was a orange dot. (This was 2005, btw.)

Then blue flames/or light lifted the orange dot straight up, it stalled and then the blue flames ignited on the left side of the object and it traveled from Mount Timpanogos to the Lake Mountains and out of sight in a matter of 2 seconds.

I know for 100% fact what I saw happened and so did the other dude. Our friends gave us **** and thought we were bsing. I'm not saying what we saw was aliens, but whatever we saw may be classified. I should note it headed towards the Dugway Proving Grounds. That said, I guarantee we have nothing that moves 80 miles plus in a second. Or do we?


Keep in mind I saw this happen a few years later and thought it was the end of the world. I never once thought it was a UFO. I was waiting for my gf (at the time) and suddenly the night turned into ****ing day! It was awesome, but not a UFO.


Make fun of me all you want. By doing so you're also making fun of a lot of crazy people AND more credible people than you.

UFOs are real whether you agree or not.
 
This makes me think of the time I saw a UFO in Provo that was above the eastern side of Mount Timpanogos.

I was in the backseat of a car with a friend's friend. We both saw it. We both freaked the **** out. We both were made fun of and came across as crazy to the girls we met up with at IHOP.

I get it. I wouldn't believe it too.

Basically, what we saw was a light on top of the mountain. At first I thought it was a campfire light or possibly a four wheeler's headlight - it was a orange dot. (This was 2005, btw.)

Then blue flames/or light lifted the orange dot straight up, it stalled and then the blue flames ignited on the left side of the object and it traveled from Mount Timpanogos to the Lake Mountains and out of sight in a matter of 2 seconds.

I know for 100% fact what I saw happened and so did the other dude. Our friends gave us **** and thought we were bsing. I'm not saying what we saw was aliens, but whatever we saw may be classified. I should note it headed towards the Dugway Proving Grounds. That said, I guarantee we have nothing that moves 80 miles plus in a second. Or do we?


Keep in mind I saw this happen a few years later and thought it was the end of the world. I never once thought it was a UFO. I was waiting for my gf (at the time) and suddenly the night turned into ****ing day! It was awesome, but not a UFO.


Make fun of me all you want. By doing so you're also making fun of a lot of crazy people AND more credible people than you.

UFOs are real whether you agree or not.


The only thing "real" about a UFO is the person who doesn't know what they're talking about.

However amazing or astonishing the phenomena, it either exists and has an identity, or it's something in your eye or brain that just isn't reporting a real thing.

Every few years I go to an opthalmologist, and get referred to some research establishment joint in need of billable customers. They ask all kinds of questions, like do you "see" floaters, flashes, or whatever.

Other professionals are on the lookout for imaginary stuff happening in brains somehow. They're worse than snake oil salesmen, really.

All that said, I have seen some stuff. One night I stopped off the highway on a desert mountain crest. A very bright, fast-moving object was coming pretty much straight at me. I couldn't make out the trajectory or flight path very good, but I watched it for about two minutes as it approached. I realized it had cleared a 12 K range and forty miles closer was clearing the 6K range I was on, only a thousand feet or so above me. I watched it go on for two more minutes, another 40 miles, figuring it wouldn't clear the 9K range it was heading for.

On the radio, KFI 640AM, Tim Conway Jr. was talking about essentially the same thing going over San Diego about the same time.

Some space junk from something that broke up into two big pieces, went on at a divergent angle across the Pacific, maybe southeast asia too, starting burn in the atmosphere. Must've been some magnesium or aluminum in the metal.

What you saw was a rocket test. air launched. Better to start over the mountains, low, and aimed out into the unpopulated testing range, than shoot something towards the Wasatch.

The impossible right angle turns at near c speed, apparently, are star wars tests where one object launches another if hit.
 
What you saw was a rocket test. air launched. Better to start over the mountains, low, and aimed out into the unpopulated testing range, than shoot something towards the Wasatch.

The impossible right angle turns at near c speed, apparently, are star wars tests where one object launches another if hit.

It was sitting on the mountain, near the top. If it were a rocket test, it would be a pretty weird location for it seeing how there's no access to where it launched straight up.
 
Of course UFOs are real. They're just not aliens from other planets.

Just curious to hear what you think the video of the navy pilot was. Do you know of technology that moves like that?
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.in...chad-underwoord-dave-fravor-a9254671.html?amp

Sure, it may not be alien, but whatever it was happened and is very hard to explain.

I love a quote by Neil DeGrasse Tyson.
A great challenge of life: Knowing enough to think you are right, but not knowing enough to know you are wrong.
 
Pretty sheltered comment imo.

Pretty silly article to use as a response. Alien life does not mean alien visitation in UFOs. For example, the theory of panspermia is about non-intelligent life being spread to earth, and is still more believable than alien visitors.

Just curious to hear what you think the video of the navy pilot was. Do you know of technology that moves like that?
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.independent.co.uk/news/science/ufo-tic-tac-flying-saucer-chad-underwoord-dave-fravor-a9254671.html?amp

Sure, it may not be alien, but whatever it was happened and is very hard to explain.

"Very hard to explain" =/= "alien spaceship".

“It was just behaving in ways that aren’t physically normal. That’s what caught my eye. Because, aircraft, whether they’re manned or unmanned, still have to obey the laws of physics. They have to have some source of lift, some source of propulsion. The tic tac was not doing that.”

And he added: “You’re up there flying, like, ‘Okay. It’s not behaving in a manner that’s predictable or is normal by how flying objects physically move’.”

Really, what else needs to be said?
 
Has anyone else watched the Secrets of Skinwalker Ranch on the History channel? I just finished the first episode. It reminds me of the Oak Island series.

I've always been fascinated by it so it's nice to have a show like this. That said, a lot of the people in the show are weirdos like the owner, the ranch workers and security guard.

The owner has some bling!
 
Has anyone else watched the Secrets of Skinwalker Ranch on the History channel? I just finished the first episode. It reminds me of the Oak Island series.

I've always been fascinated by it so it's nice to have a show like this. That said, a lot of the people in the show are weirdos like the owner, the ranch workers and security guard.

The owner has some bling!
I'll have to check that one out. The thing I hate about series like oak island is you are guaranteed they never find anything of consequence and the search never ends because then they don't have a series anymore to generate revenue. So the suspense is all fake because if they have this huge buildup in the 5th episode of season 1 then all of a sudden they open the treasure chamber, well, that's it. I think even if they do find anything they will keep it hidden until the series has run it's course then suddenly "find" the treasure to end the series. It's an exercise in ******** tv.

Basically they learned their lesson from the opening of Al Capone's vault.
 
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