Another religious topic......

[Jazz Spazz]

You don't want it more by saying you want it more. It's all about your actions, working out harder, or studying more then others etc.

They are helping people in the slums from every race about equally, you don't get more welfare for being Black.

Being black you get advantages when doing things like applying to Medical School.

Most people applying to medical school were able to afford all of 4 year university and are far from the slums.

The Black Swordsman is actually a white guy in black armor in a comic book...

1- So people in the slums just need to work harder, or study more to get out of the slums?

2- Welfare doesn't really help people they way they have it set up, it enables.

3- Businesses do get financial help for hiring people of certain races.

4- I know for a fact that people going through medical school get some insane loans available to them in anticipation that they will make a ton of money and pay it back. It is possible that kids from poorer families have much more stress and real life things to deal with that take them away from their studies, which makes it difficult for them to become doctors and such... but it is still possible. Like you said earlier, if you want it bad enough you will be able to do it. There are plenty of inspirational stories of people overcoming the odds and earning for themselves a better situation.

5- Good to know on the comic book thing. I'm really out of date when it comes to my comic book knowledge. I guess I just don't want it bad enough.

 

[The Black Swordsman]

1) I NEVER said poor people have it fair or close to fair. ALL I am saying is that Black and White people from the slums are equally screwed. YOU are the one saying that they should help black and white people equally in the slums. All I am saying is that they do and it is bad for both.

2)Same as number 1.

3) Ya they need like a certain percent of each race, the same percent that the American population is made up of. Lets say 14% of Americans are Black, they get financial help for close to 14%.

4) I agree with you there.

5) Hey man I never said you needed to know, I'm just saying where the Black in my name comes from because you asked.

 

[Jazz Spazz]

1) I NEVER said poor people have it fair or close to fair. ALL I am saying is that Black and White people from the slums are equally screwed. YOU are the one saying that they should help black and white people equally in the slums. All I am saying is that they do and it is bad for both.

2)Same as number 1.

3) Ya they need like a certain percent of each race, the same percent that the American population is made up of. Lets say 14% of Americans are Black, they get financial help for close to 14%.

4) I agree with you there.

5) Hey man I never said you needed to know, I'm just saying where the Black in my name comes from because you asked.

on the #5 thing, I got you. I was just saying I must not have wanted comic book knowledge in my life, or I would have tried harder to get it.

haha haha ha bleh

As to the welfare system, I don't like it. I think it is just a handout to people, who get in a rut and stay where/who they are, with their hand out waiting for more. There should be some sort of accountability, give and take, progression, something to actually help people that truly do need the temporary help so eventually they are self sufficient. As it is, many people on welfare have children and raise those kids to also live off of welfare. This just exacerbates the problem.
It's similar to that overused saying, give a man a fish and you feed him for a day, teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime.

 

[TroutBum]

*mine just sayin'

I guess if you want that mind field his dogs are leaving, you are welcome to it.

My dogs leave little bits of their brains on the front lawn. Don't you two idiots look STUPID!!!

 

[LogGrad98]

My dogs leave little bits of their brains on the front lawn. Don't you two idiots look STUPID!!!

That is what I said. Moran.

 

[Nate505]

I disagree.

With what? I made like two separate points there.

 

[Stoked]

How about this question.
When we have to fill out some "informational, statistical" survey on if we are "white, non hispanic", or blablabla.... does that reinforce any racism that still exists in this country? Every time I fill out a job application, government paperwork, etc.... are they in a way saying "we want you to be reminded every day if possible that you are different than other people around you"?
Is the government racist?
Is the government giving something to companies that hire people of a certain race, supporting racism in our country?

The bolded parts apply to my job. I have that question come up numerous times a day. I answer them for everyone who walks thru that door as "no answer". I care about their opinion on that as much as I care about their color.

One of the main reasons the government does this is for statistical reasons. So they know population densities of different races, where they are moving to, where they are leaving...

 

[Deleted member 848]

I always laugh when I get those informational sheets that ask me for my race. I was once told that I am not really caucasian, so I've filled out "Other" ever since

For the record, Im pretty damn sure Im caucasian, lol.

 

[Hantlers]

The government shouldn't care who companies hire...hell, other than maybe a couple exceptions companies are always going to hire the best person for the job. Giving companies bonuses for hiring minorities is one of the stupidest things I've ever heard of.

 

[PearlWatson]

This conversation has raised a question I have been wondering about. Are there varying degrees of racism, or is every single racist act or attitude exactly equal to any other? Is the lds church denying the priesthood to blacks, while in no other way restricting anyone at all exactly the same as, say, the kkk burning Crosses and hanging blacks?

Racism is no worse than any other form of hatred, or violence. It has just been politicized to death, and used as crutch too much.

Whether you are hurt or killed for your race or for being in the wrong place at the wrong time doesn't change anything.

 

[Bronco70]

People from Africa origins are, as a whole, slightly stronger and faster for a couple of reasons, one is Allen's Rule. Another is white slaveowners only let mate their strongest slaves. After a couple of generations of that, it increased the average athleticism of slaves. The biggest reason though is the mentality that people have. Black people are poorer as a whole and one way to escape the slums is professional athlete. Black people want it more. I would say it is 99% mentality. Are Asians smarter then whites who are smarter then Mexicans and Blacks?? HELL NO. Gotta get your mind straight and correct habbits down and the difference in intellect between people is miniscule, this is same for natural athleticism though not quite to the same extent as intellect as you still gotta have height and decent proportions. Bruce Lee was one of the weakest kids growing up for example and was a beast before he died just to provide an extreme example.

Now Black people and Mexicans are poorer as a whole then whites. Of course this is ONLY due to the upbringing they have etc and not because whites deserve the better jobs. The government is trying to fix this so Blacks and Mexicans have a slightly easier time getting into good schools and some jobs, they aren't doing enough imo.

Jimmy the Greek?

 

[franklin]

So does the moon reflect light (noor) or is it made of light? Does Allah reflect light (using the same word as for the moon - noor) our is he made of light. Seems the muslims use translational inaccuracies every bit as much as the Christians when trying to explain incongruous passages of scripture.

This was a very interesting post. I wonder when One Brow will be back to comment on it.