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Game Thread Apr 12, 2021 07:00PM MT: Jazz vs. Wizards

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The Wizards are just really good at baiting Utah into playing their style. Forrest/Thomas gave Utah next to nothing on either end.

Matt Thomas might be an elite shooter, but can he even get open?

I like Forrest but you can't play in the Jazz's offense if you cant take the corner 3.

Jazz ended up scoring a lot of points, but not having Conley/Clarkson really showed in the 2nd quarter where Utah kind of stalled out on offense.
 
Jingled said:
He's 1/22 on 3's in the last 7 games and has now missed his last 15 attempts.
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And as good as he supposedly is on defense you would think he would be in the discussion for all nba defensive team since he is a starter on the team with the best record in the league and plays so many minutes. I wonder if he will make the all nba defensive team.

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fishonjazz said:
And as good as he supposedly is on defense you would think he would be in the discussion for all nba defensive team since he is a starter on the team with the best record in the league and plays so many minutes. I wonder if he will make the all nba defensive team.

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The bad thing is he stop shooting open 3s just because he is missing them. He should shoot them. That's the right play. When he is not taking those he is messing up our rhythm.
 
Hekate said:
For sure, flopping matter

I believe the awkwardness plays a much bigger role, though. Gobert gets a pretty fair whistle in PnRs because he rolls hard and is comfortable in those situations but when he creates his own shot, he doesn't really command respect.

It's one of the reasons Jokic doesn't get fair enough whistle too. He has an awkward body.

Beal looked much more fluid and in control so he gets the benefit.
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It just sucks that half of drawing fouls is acting bull ****. We need to have Ersan do a taking a charge lunch and learn for all of our guys. There is honor in not participating in the bull **** but it definitely hurts our team.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
Officiating in the nba is stupid. I think it was the very next play that Ingles absolutely gets plowed by Beal but does the normal human reaction instead of crumpling to the ground and it was a play on.

The refs were trash tonight... not just against us... they were really bad
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Yeah, a few plays before Gobert dropped his shoulder right into ROLO for that dunk. I thought that was a pretty obvious offensive foul, but ROLO didnt react to it in the purpose of a drawing a foul, so he didnt get the foul.

You really do have to flop, to some extent, to get calls your way.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Yeah, a few plays before Gobert dropped his shoulder right into ROLO for that dunk. I thought that was a pretty obvious offensive foul, but ROLO didnt react to it in the purpose of a drawing a foul, so he didnt get the foul.

You really do have to flop, to some extent, to get calls your way.
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Absolutely. Rolo and Joe both did what guys do in normal situations... instead of falling to the ground. The charge block is the more obvious example of acting... the other arm flailing and over exaggeration that goes on likely has a bigger effect on the game. The refs stopped calling fouls they could see a long time ago and started going off of reactions, acting, and other attempts to deceive. Half the time I see a ref call a foul there is literally no way for them to see contact because they have no angle. It tends to lean towards superstars and DM is starting to figure things out so it won't be as big of a disparity as it has been over the years.

In other news... Rudy is pretty bad flopper... he's just kinda awkward and obvious about it. He is trying sometimes though.
 
Revolution 9 said:
You missed defend the perimeter, and limit second chance points.
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We are who we are on defense. You can't really say "defend the perimeter" and truly measure it. We have to do our best but if we win, it's because we hit levels on offense. Our defense could be better, but we lack the personnel to really make that our calling card

You are spot on about limiting offensive rebounds. That's something tangible we can control.

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Handlogten's Heros said:
Absolutely. Rolo and Joe both did what guys do in normal situations... instead of falling to the ground. The charge block is the more obvious example of acting... the other arm flailing and over exaggeration that goes on likely has a bigger effect on the game. The refs stopped calling fouls they could see a long time ago and started going off of reactions, acting, and other attempts to deceive. Half the time I see a ref call a foul there is literally no way for them to see contact because they have no angle. It tends to lean towards superstars and DM is starting to figure things out so it won't be as big of a disparity as it has been over the years.

In other news... Rudy is pretty bad flopper... he's just kinda awkward and obvious about it. He is trying sometimes though.
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And then you have the plays where the ref watches to see if the shot goes in before deciding if they are going to blow the whistle or not.

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I didn't read through this gamethread but what was the reaction in here to that flagrant foul call on royce?
He hit the dudes arm. Didn't hold the arm and pull the guy down or anything.
How the **** was that a flagrant. That might have cost us the game

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