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With where the Jazz are at right now, there is simply no way that Hayward bolts if we offer the most money.
Are the Jazz going to have to trade Hayward?
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Right? These guys keep talking about how special what THEY are building in Utah right now.
If they build it, and it's special, it'll be their baby. They'll need their paydays, but if we give it to them they'll do their jobs.
framer
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Why do people assume that Hayward has a burning desire to play for his old college coach? If he loved the guy that much he wouldn't have bolted to the NBA after coming two inches short of a national championship. Corbin was Hayward's coach longer than Brad Stevens was, and by the time he is a free agent, Snyder will have been the coach Hayward has been with the longest. Jazz will be better than both Boston and Indiana when Hayward is up and Indiana already has George at Hayward's position. I think we will probably be OK in retaining Hayward.
Assume Gobert and Favors get maxxed the following season. Jazz will likely be in luxury-tax territory within a year.
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https://jazzfanz.com/showthread.php?42481-How-Dante-s-injury-could-impact-the-Jazz-future
My thoughts there were mostly based on Gordon's impending free agency.
My thoughts there were mostly based on Gordon's impending free agency.
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This is scary. Then there is Burks, hood, and dante
If we don't make the playoffs in the next 2 years I would assume he won't come back. That is why making the playoffs this year and getting a PG who can actually play is kind of important.
Stifle Tower
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Ummm, no. Favors is a good player, but he's not worth $30M. Personally, I don't think Hayward is, either. Gobert IS because he changes games with his defense. But I'm hoping they'll all collectively take less to keep the team together. Probably just a pipe dream.
Jazz can replace Hayward with Hood and hopefully Favors with Lyles if it comes to that. Sure, we lose some of the skills those players have. But we'd become a better shooting team on the perimeter. And if that happens (losing players), well, that's one of the reasons DL has accumulated so many assets, including another first in 2017.
Again, repeatedly terrible take on everything.
Stifle Tower
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So you think Favors is a max player?
Hayward arguably is, but SF is the most easily replaceable position. And IF Hood continues to improve upon what he did the latter part of the season, the drop-off from Hayward to Hood won't be as steep as it is at other positions. Also, the Jazz have been shopping or at least listening to offers for Favors for two straight years. And they heaped all kinds of praise on Lyles. I don't think it's a stretch (pun intended) for QS/DL to decide they want to go with Lyles to stretch the floor and complement Gobert inside.
Why is this a terrible take? Jazz can't POSSIBLY pay all these players $30M each. Utah will go NOWHERE by having a big-3 of Rudy, Gordon and Favors at $90M or so and filling in 10 other positions with scrubs and youngsters. Unless some of these players take less, Utah will lose at least two of Exum, Hood, Burks, Favors, Gobert and Hayward. Just do the math.
Here, I'll do it for you:
Hayward, Gobert: $30M each
Favors: $25M?
Exum: $15-20M? Just guessing since his value is really unknown after a rocky rookie season.
Burks, Hood (after rookie deal): $15M
That's $130M for six players. Even adjust this up or down by $10M and it still doesn't work because you also have to factor in 7 other players - ranging from the rookie or vet minimum up to whatever is slotted for the 1st round picks Utah has on the team.
So yes, go ahead and attack me you ********************** for every post saying it's a terrible take. But back it up with facts, ******************!