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Are the Jazz going to trade Rudy?

You kind of half to give him what he wants I think. He’s worth about the same in a trade on an expiring deal as he is locked down on a giant contract. And he’s worth nothin if he walks.

Hopefully he settles on something in-between the supermax and max contracts. But hope fades.
 
We can't supermax Rudy. We simply can't sign a non-supermax quality player to a contract that big.

We wouldn't sign Clarkson to $25 million simply because we had no option to replace him with another big signing. You don't sign a bad contract because you are afraid to lose somebody.

To me, this shows a lot about Rudy. He shouldn't say garbage in the media about wanting to win a title then demand more than he is worth. He can't even be the catalyst to get us to the 2nd round. Take a max and move on.


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How much of this hinges on Donovan's opinion of Rudy? If Don isn't endorsing the deal I'm certain that's influencing the negotiations.
 
LoPo said:
We can't supermax Rudy. We simply can't sign a non-supermax quality player to a contract that big.

We wouldn't sign Clarkson to $25 million simply because we had no option to replace him with another big signing. You don't sign a bad contract because you are afraid to lose somebody.

To me, this shows a lot about Rudy. He shouldn't say garbage in the media about wanting to win a title then demand more than he is worth. He can't even be the catalyst to get us to the 2nd round. Take a max and move on.


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Bro, we just signed Don to a 33M-38M deal with a player option, lol. We pretty obviously give out bad contracts if we're afraid to lose somebody.
 
LoPo said:
We can't supermax Rudy. We simply can't sign a non-supermax quality player to a contract that big.

We wouldn't sign Clarkson to $25 million simply because we had no option to replace him with another big signing. You don't sign a bad contract because you are afraid to lose somebody.

To me, this shows a lot about Rudy. He shouldn't say garbage in the media about wanting to win a title then demand more than he is worth. He can't even be the catalyst to get us to the 2nd round. Take a max and move on.


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So at 30M a year you are good but 38M is too much and would cripple the franchise and you’d rather have him walk?
 
While I’d take it down to the wire or at least past the game tomorrow... I think I’d rather get it done and overpay a little for the certainty. If it costs you JC later or just replacing Joe’s salary with a minimum guy when it expires then that’s more palatable than risking losing him for nothing. You could move him next year or two for stuff if you need to... similar to what the clips did to Blake. CP getting traded for assets tells you teams will take on players if they feel it’s a short cut to relevance.

All star talent is the hardest thing to find... we can replace Bojan Favs or JC with cheaper parts if we need to and we won’t lose as much as just letting Rudy walk.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
While I’d take it down to the wire or at least past the game tomorrow... I think I’d rather get it done and overpay a little for the certainty. If it costs you JC later or just replacing Joe’s salary with a minimum guy when it expires then that’s more palatable than risking losing him for nothing. You could move him next year or two for stuff if you need to... similar to what the clips did to Blake. CP getting traded for assets tells you teams will take on players if they feel it’s a short cut to relevance.

All star talent is the hardest thing to find... we can replace Bojan Favs or JC with cheaper parts if we need to and we won’t lose as much as just letting Rudy walk.
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A penny wise, pound foolish.

We're good at that, though.
 
We're going to pay him, not the supermax but a LOT He's an epic force in winning and deserves every cent. Without him we're a run of the mill team even with Donovan.
 
Eastern Orthodoxy said:
And that's apparently where things are.

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Nothing about this seems unrealistic. If I had to make a guess myself, this is where the negotiation is. But I have a hard time believing Porter Larsen (not Andy) is the most wired person in all of media to this situation. Loose sources or making it up likely.
 
KqWIN said:
Nothing about this seems unrealistic. If I had to make a guess myself, this is where the negotiation is. But I have a hard time believing Porter Larsen (not Andy) is the most wired person in all of media to this situation. Loose sources or making it up likely.
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I would be curious if they meant a not full super-max at the same value as a normal max for 5 years or if they they meant a regular max, so just 4 years.
 
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