Depth at point guard is one of the biggest needs keeping the team away from contention. A serviceable #2 PG wouldn't break the bank and is sorely needed. Gaines and Price just don't cut it as #2. AK makes a better backout point than either of them and that is saying a lot. I wonder if Hayward could develop well enoungh to take the point for 5-10 minutes a game in a year or two. He already seems to have better court vision than Gaines or Price and is a decent passer. His height could be an asset too as long as he doesn't get turnover happy.
Are we a shot blocking big man away from contention?
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Gyp Rosetti
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A very good perimeter player who can shoot, create his own shot, and get to the line in bunches is on virtually every championship team in recent memory. Jordan and Pippen. Drexler. Wade. Rip. Manu. Kobe.
I don't see Deron becoming that guy so we need Miles and/or Hayward to step the **** up.
I don't see Deron becoming that guy so we need Miles and/or Hayward to step the **** up.
Stifle Tower
Punch Bowl Re-Filler
IAWTP.
Deron is worn out and beaten up late in the season. He should average no more than 35 mins/per. And he should be able to take more of a rest when he's hurt. Instead, he's often forced back into games late because Price/Gaines can't be trusted to protect a lead. Or, returning in the 2nd/4th, Deron has to make up the ground the 2nd unit has lost. Ronnie and Sundiata are nice guys, but both are no better than 3rd-stringers.
AS for a "shot-blocker," what we really need is a defender. IF he blocks a couple of shots, great. But even more importnat is just holding postion down low and getting in the way. Fes could be that guy. He's big enough. But he's just not motivated enough to be a consitent defensive force. It's a shame, really. He could easily earn $7-8M/yr with just a medium amount of dedication added to the bulk he already has.
It looks like we have to rely on Fes to be the guy. If he can reach his potential the Jazz will be looking good and will have solved their problem from within. Otherwise we are at the mercy of the draft and FA. It's a tough situation with Utah not being the most desirable location for FAs. I'd like to see a Yao or Gasol in a Jazz uni if possible, but again, it's unlikely.
Dalembert can't be traded (again) until August 17.
It will have to cost AK's big expiring and the Kings would probably want to dump a contract to go with him, probably either Udrih (3 years: 6.6/7.2/7.8) or Francisco Garcia (3y: 5.5/5.8/6.1).
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Fouling is no good.
JAZZFAN_2814
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The Jazz have needed to address this, within the context of "contention" or the pretense that comes with it, since at least 2006/07.
And...they've done nothing.
Which is pretty typical on all fronts, even now. That is, when we consider improvement positionally and overall, rather than stopgaps or matches.
The Jazz did a really nice job salvaging with Jefferson in place of Boozer, but what this does as far as marked improvement is an open question. The idea of a player that likes setting up deep in the post is exciting, but this relative lack hasn't been killing the Jazz as much as lame complementary backcourt pieces on skillset bases and paint protection.
The closest the Jazz came to addressing either of those years' long holes came in the form of Hayward. That they know this is a problem and have finally done something is nice, until you factor how little has been done over how long a period of time.
Jazz fans now believe that this team is close to contention, based on a couple moves that stopped them from slipping out of the playoffs.
Inter alia (in the context of double-edges), the Jazz have been "close" for awhile now. And the FO has done nothing to get them much closer, or "there".
What makes this offseason much different? I have hope for Jefferson and Hayward, but I don't see how the Jazz have done that much to improve the roster or change dynamics in a positive or dominant position over prior Williams' Jazz teams.
Could be better. Could be about the same. Could be worse.
But key issues are still unaddressed. People thinking Jefferson>>>Boozer is certainly arguable, and I hope it plays out, but the Jazz need far better pieces as far as offensive facilitation payoff and out, as well as someone to bother shots in the paint.
What else is new?
And...they've done nothing.
Which is pretty typical on all fronts, even now. That is, when we consider improvement positionally and overall, rather than stopgaps or matches.
The Jazz did a really nice job salvaging with Jefferson in place of Boozer, but what this does as far as marked improvement is an open question. The idea of a player that likes setting up deep in the post is exciting, but this relative lack hasn't been killing the Jazz as much as lame complementary backcourt pieces on skillset bases and paint protection.
The closest the Jazz came to addressing either of those years' long holes came in the form of Hayward. That they know this is a problem and have finally done something is nice, until you factor how little has been done over how long a period of time.
Jazz fans now believe that this team is close to contention, based on a couple moves that stopped them from slipping out of the playoffs.
Inter alia (in the context of double-edges), the Jazz have been "close" for awhile now. And the FO has done nothing to get them much closer, or "there".
What makes this offseason much different? I have hope for Jefferson and Hayward, but I don't see how the Jazz have done that much to improve the roster or change dynamics in a positive or dominant position over prior Williams' Jazz teams.
Could be better. Could be about the same. Could be worse.
But key issues are still unaddressed. People thinking Jefferson>>>Boozer is certainly arguable, and I hope it plays out, but the Jazz need far better pieces as far as offensive facilitation payoff and out, as well as someone to bother shots in the paint.
What else is new?
mikenielsen
Well-Known Member
Ante Tomic will be coming over next year...So as far as the future of our bigs, we are set. What we will need in the future when AK's contract is up is a stud 2 guard...Not another big man.
Gyp Rosetti
Banned
We've also added a gritty vet in Bell which has been sorely lacking the last few years. Hopefully he can hook up to the juvenation machine..
To me, the most important move right now should be to move Okur. That would make this off-season very, very ****ing complete.
To me, the most important move right now should be to move Okur. That would make this off-season very, very ****ing complete.