Game Thread August 30, 2020: Nuggets at Jazz - Game 6

[l Abach l]

I'll be the first to eat crow about this, but trading for Conley was the worst decision the Jazz have made since Maxing AK-47.

Trade rudy? Rudy isn’t the reason why we lost.

Jingles and Royce going 2-8 and 10 pts is.

The problem has always been finding better wings. Give us another athletic wing like Grant and this series is over. We’ve always needed a bit more juice at that wing spot.

had a chance but the FO blew their load on a 31 unathletic wing in Bogey. I love Bogey, but the jazz needed true athletic stoppers on D to go alongside MItchell

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Rudy has to drop because Murray has a path at all times. Unless we put Morgan on Jokic and Rudy helps both sides but then they will either pull Rudy to weakside with Jokic post threat or he helps on Murray and Jokic gets easy looks.

Well you can drop and top lock but you have to ask one more guy to rotate... we want Rudy to drop and then get all the way back to Jokic... like he has a ****ing teleporter or something.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

That would mean the Conley experiment has officially failed. It'd be either Quin or DL out of the door.

Nah they both got enough leash and security. Could always pivot.

 

[JazzyFresh]

We have surrounded him with defenders and we needed offense. We surrounded him with offensive players, and now we need defense.

There was a glimmer of defensive prowess a few games vs Houston last year but we still lost 2 of those 3 games.

I personally think we could be better with bigs who can set screens but also get out and guard the perimeter. We don't dominate rebounding with Rudy. He doesn't protect the rim exceptionally well in the playoffs.

I want to keep Rudy, but I don't think he is a max player.

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And who's to say him and Spyda really care for each other? I get the feeling there's still something there.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

This. ****ing infuriating

I mean just throwing a curve ball at it at random times might be better. He might pick you apart with a pass but at least it’s not an automatic read where he knows he’s got the shot.

 

[Eminence]

Royce's D has been kinda disappointing this series, but outside that this is unfortunately what I've grown to expect. Gobert can't defend the whole damn team.

I really think we need a real 4 again (one who can hopefully hit an occasional 3) to at least pretend to be a big in the lane when Rudy's pulled outside.

And no more bounce passes in traffic to Rudy damn it.

 

[LoPo]

Well you can drop and top lock but you have to ask one more guy to rotate... we want Rudy to drop and then get all the way back to Jokic... like he has a ****ing teleporter or something.

I'm no basketball coach, but Murray is getting wide open 3's, not too tough step back 3's or Jokoc is getting a wide open 3 every single possession.

That cannot continue.

Can we play two athletic guys on Jokic and Murray and let Rudy hang out just outside the paint? They might counter with Craig for 3, but isn't that better?

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[fishonjazz]

He's not. He's very average player against every other team in the league. It's that Jazz defense is atrocious. Murray will never again score 40 in his life, let alone 50. Unless he plays the Jazz, of course.

I would take that bet for sure

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[Handlogten's Heros]

And who's to say him and Spyda really care for each other? I get the feeling there's still something there.

It’s fairly obvious... they have said it isn’t perfect since being in the bubble. Could tell Rudy is frustrated with the guys on defense and DM was pissy at him on a couple offensive possessions.

 

[Jazz4ever]

In Rudy's defense, his teammates did him no favors on the defensive end. They leave him in impossible positions when Murray goes through 2 or 3 guys and Rudy rotates and that leave Grant or Jurkic open for wide open shots. They didn't miss too many of those tonight.

And Jokic, Porter, and Grant are tall, so even if we get a player rotating to them in time they shoot over them with confidence of never getting blocked. The collective height of this team is too short.

 

[jom2003]

you know there isn't much to blame on the coach when you are asking for G-leaguers to play instead of the players on the court. Yes niang has been horrendous all night. but when your alternative is a ten-day G leaguer, it hardly makes a difference.

 

[Game6Conley]

He's not. He's very average player against every other team in the league. It's that Jazz defense is atrocious. Murray will never again score 40 in his life, let alone 50. Unless he plays the Jazz, of course.

Murray's a career 25PPG scorer in the playoffs... and he's 23 years old... on 43% from 3 and over 90% from the stripe... It's not just he plays good against the Jazz