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Game Thread August 30, 2020: Nuggets at Jazz - Game 6

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I still think we're playing pretty much above the talent level we've got, against a team that's far more talented 1 to 12 than we are.
Certainly sucks a bit we didn't KO them when we had the chance, but I'm not going to complain very much.
We know athletic help is needed at the 3 higher spots if Jazz is serious about trying their best to be a tier one team.
 
LoPo said:
Like many budding superstars, they know they are great. Don is no different. However, the entire team concept is built around a guy who can't take over a game. Yes, Rudy can shut down the paint or his guy for stretches, but playoff series aren't won by guys who can't score outside of 3 feet anymore.

Don knows this. He probably knows he can score even easier if he didnt have to force feed Gobert so much or attack a lane Rudy isn't stretching.

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the problem right now is that we aren't building this team around anyone. Last couple of seasons we built a system around Rudy with energy and muscle that led to one of the league's best defense. then we decided to shift away from rudy and build a "complete team" that isn't centered around anyone. like the 04 pistons and the gritt n grind grizz. teams that had no "star". but to make it work, it would require the perfect chemistry. Like Rudy's presence needs to make up for others lack of defense. And Conley/Bojan/DM needs to get enough buckets to hide Rudy on offense. it wouldn't click if these elements can't make up for each other
 
I still think we lost tonight when we didn't stay aggressive when Jokic went out. We were up 10. We through out a trash lineup, blew the lead, and gave them momentum.

Quin has to trust our main guys to play heavy minutes in game 7.

Don
Rudy
Conley
Clarkson
Royce
Joe

Niang and Morgan should only play for severe rest issues.


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latin jazz said:
Can't play lockdown defense anymore. We just don't have

Conley wasn't the main problem. tonight, at least the contributed on offense (although he had two terrible TOs). This team is flawed. The main problem is defense: we don't have multiple guys who can defend the perimeter. If not Murray (who has been incredible, it will be someone else). Ingles has lost a step. Royce is a good defender but lacks the length to stop bigger guys. JC tries hard but he has never be known as a good defender (he gets lost on D too). Conley plays decent D against small PGs, but can't guard bigger ones (or swicth). Bojan tries but lacks lateral quickness. Niang is too slow and doesn't bother any shot. Bradley, slow too.

Even if we win in game 7, this needs to be addressed during the offseason. We have lost our defensive identity. At least last year we could throw Rubio and Crowder in the mix (although Ricky used to get blown by on D, at least he gave you deflections, effort and positional versatility). Favors was mobile and could even switch to small guards. Now we only have Royce (if he is having a good day).
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Conley hasn’t stopped anyone, dude. Not even Monte Morris
 
NAOS said:
Conley hasn’t stopped anyone, dude. Not even Monte Morris
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Did I say Conley played great D and locked down Morris? No. I said he wasn't the only one to blame and that at least he contributed on O (unlike Royce, Joe or JC...you may also look at Rudy this game).

My lenghty post was to tackle on a bigger issues, which is how the team is constructed. It's not fair to blame one guy and treat him like a scapegoat when there are more reasons why we lost this game (and you can say has been present throughout the season):
  • Bench sucks (especially when Clarkson is not hot)
  • Lack of perimeter defense. We don't have depth or the personnel.
  • Not athletic/long enough. A unit with Joe, Niang, JC, Bradley and Conley on the floor is not gonna cut it.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
He’s tough but passes can turn into turnovers... making them at least think a little more will help. We are giving them everything they want. Murray jumpers, no turnovers, Jokic jumpers, offensive rebounds...
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We ain't the raptors, we aren't rotating fast enough to stop Jokic's passes from being a threat. He doesn't turn the ball over when a man is open. Even if he does 1 or 2 times, it will be dead ball turnovers. Can't help on Jokic, Rudy has to stay on him at all times. Help for Murray has to come from somewhere else but I am becoming more and more resigned to fact that this is who we are and all we are capable of.
 
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