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Rumor is also out that damaged reactors going in to meltdown look nothing at all like tactical or any other nuclear weapon. Rumor is out that Russia won't allow the UN to take control of the plant because Russia is using it as a military warehouse. Rumor is out that you need to get a new source for your rumors.


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My cows are very sociable and compliant, mostly. They go out to graze at night, come home to sit in the shade and drink water and nurse their calves while it's just stupid to stand out in the hot sun doing stuff like that. I don't know who all talks to them and passes this information to them, but I've learned to distinguish the subtleties of cow speech, I imagine.

Beyond that, I know that Western and/or NATO propaganda press has been saying that Russia is using the plant for military purposes, and their source is the notably objective and disspassionate Pres. Zelensky.

My source, on a highter level of information than the jplain bellowing of Zelensky and manty cows, is a former, disaffected CIA man, who has jproperly set the question and supplied a few bits of information that do not, in his opinion, amount to proof. But it's a question worth pay9ing attention to.

One of my former jobs in research was to investigate reports on radiation effects and health. The BEIR report was practically my pillow. I don't think osmosis is a reliable educational method, but I did read it, in snatches, before b3eing so damned bored I couldn't go on.

For your information, which I doubt you'd get from any official course of education or scholarly published drivel, the basic decision was made to amplifiy and exaggerate every possible adverse effect so as to err on the side of caution. There is a guy, a pastor, with a political talk show on the air in rural Utah, who believes that the Fukushima plant released a plume of radiation that has circled the Pacific and landed onshore on our Western America shores, and that that plume is now marching across land with untold death and disease.

According to my actual understanding, there is a background level of radiation of various types including extraterrestrial that amounts to an annual exposure of about 100 mrem/yr. Some quacks offer Iodine formulations to protect against nuclear radiation from nuclides like Strontium 90, which are taken up in the food chain with some efficiency, but the fact is that we humans, if healthy, have an onboard system for dealing with radiation problems, which goes to sleep if we don't get enough.
Accordingly, p0eople who live in low elevation and low radiation areas have a statistically significant higher rate of cancer.

I'm sure that nuclear reactor meltdowns are a sort of urban legend that can be averted with ordinary shelling of the concrete crib. A tactical nuke of the artillery shell size might be about 10Kt, but enough to create a significantly different heat footprint, besides some satellite or radar tracking on incoming shells.

The Russians know all this, and I believe they would just shut the plant down if the shelling goes forward. Take the nuclear materials out and store them safely with proper criticality information. Keeping it open and suppling energy to Zelensky's territories is part of Putin's notion of making this something of a managed operation with limited goals. I believe if NATO supplies this kind of artillery shell, and Zelensky makes use of it per the rumor, Russia would be sharing that evidence with India, China and other interested nations. He would track the radioactive plume and make a helluva fuss in his media. It would really make Biden look bad and it would cost the US pretty significantly outside of the NATO set.

I realize that the former CIA prattler is not a nuclear or health ex pert for sure,, and he is a bit pro-Russian in the sense that he is just fed up with our leadership and knows it's deliberate provoaction on rthe part of the US and allies to keeping pushing NaTo up Putin's ***.

I might be the only human on planet earth who believes I know anything too. But what the hell.
 
Beyond that, I know that Western and/or NATO propaganda press has been saying that Russia is using the plant for military purposes, and their source is the notably objective and disspassionate Pres. Zelensky.
The source was a guy in the Zaporizhzhya nuclear power plant with a smart phone who covertly recorded as he walked past the Russian trucks parked in the building and put the video footage on social media. It is great that you know a CIA guy and used to sleep on a book, but I've seen the footage of the Russian trucks in the nuclear power plant.
 
The source was a guy in the Zaporizhzhya nuclear power plant with a smart phone who covertly recorded as he walked past the Russian trucks parked in the building and put the video footage on social media. It is great that you know a CIA guy and used to sleep on a book, but I've seen the footage of the Russian trucks in the nuclear power plant.
I don't think you are seriously sensible on this subject. You have fallen into the propaganda pit and become a propagandist yourself.

I don't see any issue with where trucks are parked. What is onboard might be an issue. What they are being used for is the issue. If I were a Ukranian and I saw missiles coming out of that place, I'd fire missiles right back.

The US army would fry natives in the entrances to bunkers and caves to get to the soldiers behind them in WWII, and all in all that's the way war works. The Ukrainians have been hiding everything behind civilians, in churches, in hospitals, next to apartment buildings, inside apartment buildings all the way in this war, torturing Russian POWs and disfiguring them, shooting them in the groin just to watch them suffer. A lot of unenthusiastic soldiers on both sides, a few real war criminals, on both sides no doubt. The Nazi wannabees on the Ukranian side have been hiding behind Ukranian national guard recruits sent up front to be cannon fodder.

I don't think very many scientists have my information or perspective. Trained not to think by years in school.

So I was a "Downwinder" as a child. I watched nuclear fallout clouds drift overhead while I played in the dirt. A lot of people got cancer somehow, over the years. Others no doubt suffered other health effects. I milked the cows that grazed in the fields and drank the milk. My lawyer brother was a partner in the law firm that handled thousands of injury claims in the area.

I worked for one of researchers that used dogs to find out how cis-platinum causes cancer. I love dogs. Don't you love dogs? I think I probably love dogs more than people.

I saw how our policies were developed. I saw the facts and the reasons.

I think you missed the point, probably on purpose here. That equates you with an ignoramus or a liar, in my book.

The choice was made to assume no threshold of effects, to extrapolate all the risks on a straight line back to zero, so far as radiation exposure is concerned.

The fact is there is for healthy, normal people, those who have no genetic or other abnormality in the relevant biology, a threshold to the risk. We live in a world where there is natural radiation of almost every sort.. Ionizing radiation is thought to effect its damage on our genes, our DNA, by damaging molecules in the structures and impairing normal processes. It known that we normally have repair enzymes at work fixing damage that naturally occurs. Unless that repair capability is exceeded in a radiation exposure, we normally can live fine with some exposures. There is an intensity factor and a time factor. Our repair enzymes are inducible, and it is known that exposure to radiation induces increased production of repair enzymes and increased capacity for sustaining health under a higher sustained exposure level.

We have a comparable capacity in regard to exposures to heavy metals. I did direct research studying those effects.

A very good study was done on mine workers exposed to Uranium ores, with follow-up on health effects across many years. The study has been largely ignored because the results are politically useless. People don't want to know. Lawyers don't want to hear it; judges don't want to hear it.

The study found that non-smokers who worked in the mines actually had better health than the general populace in the area. But oh my hell, the smokers got much more cancer than the general populace, much more than smokers in the general populace.

This phenomenon is easily understood as a synergistic effect of two risk factors.

Politically, the decision has been made to let people smoke, and everything we do must assume that as a constant, and so the radiation gets all the blame. Legally and politically.

The next thing you don't know, which also makes you an ignoramus and a willing liar on the subject, is nuclear power plant design.

I have another brother who is a nuclear engineer who has worked for nuclear power companies for decades, a criticality specialist. Sure I argue with him, too. He has to be on socially solid ground and just can't actually be a radical.

I don't suppose you really care to know the facts about safety precautions in designs built into nuclear power plants. Let's just say there is a reason for those god damned big concrete builds, and for the spacing between reactor buildings. Even really evil nuclear power companies don't want their investments to be built like bombs, or potential bombs, or even potentially dangerous. They learn from the mistakes of the past, and do stuff to avert future events.

I don't have the design on my desk here, sure, but I believe if a tactical nuclear artillery shell made a direct hit on the plant, on any of the reactor buildings, or in between two reactor buildings, that there would NOT be as much radiation released as some of the tests done in Nevada in the 1950s and 1960s.

Still, if I were a Russian, I wouldn't park military equipment or ammunition in that plant. I'd believe the Ukrainians will target that plant for propaganda purposes even if they have no facts about my military deployments. I'd believe they will fire on that plant and make every kind of accusation they can imagine anyway. So I'd hide the trucks in the trees or in a grain storage facility or a candy factory instead.

As a Russian, I would care that the nuclear fallout will blow over Russia and Russians. If I were a Ukrainian, I'd do an evil little smile and know that the fallout will blow over Rostov on the Don after drifting over half of the Russians in Ukraine. Knowing they are all heavy smokers. In fact, I would hardly be able to hold off the bombing.

All in all, this amounts to pre-determined decision Zelensky will act on, to blow up the plant and let his people live...... well, really, die......in the cold and dark through the coming winter. But most of the world will still see this war as US/Uk/EU imperialism gone amok,

Zelensky is not his own man, he is not acting in Ukrainian national interest. If he were, he would have insisted on showing up at the Minsk negotiations and chosen Russia has his good neighbor, shouting Nyet to NATO. The west has made him out to be a hero because he has sold out Ukraine.

I have often said Putin is Russia's "Hillary", meaning I see no difference in character, and meaning that as an insult to both. But that is because neither of them, or Biden, is "American".
 
I assume that in a real life conversation most people completely lose track of what babe is saying and finally just pretend to agree with him to be done with it.

Trying to read his posts is like trying to make sense of this chart

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I worked for one of researchers that used dogs to find out how cis-platinum causes cancer. I love dogs. Don't you love dogs? I think I probably love dogs more than people.
Okay but even with dogs being great and cancer being bad, Russia still isn't going to willingly hand over the nuclear power plant to NATO because the Russians value it as a useful spot to store their military hardware.
 
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