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Big 12 doesn't want BYU

Damn
 
Hopefully for BYU, they learn the lesson that they preach about pride and check that **** at the door if their prayers are answered that a real conference comes knocking.
 
NUMBERICA said:
Hopefully for BYU, they learn the lesson that they preach about pride and check that **** at the door if their prayers are answered that a real conference comes knocking.
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word up.

get humble..... screw byutv, take less money, whateva it takes to get in a power conference
 
There was a small window of opportunity and either byu tried to play hardball or there was never any interest from the Big 12 to begin with. Either way, the window is now closed, and byu's slide into irrelevancy continues, now at an even quicker pace.

RIP byu football program. It is over.


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Good. I don't want to be in a ****ty BCS crap-hole conference. If BYU does, that's fine, and I agree with the Ute fans here; enjoy the humble pie and sometimes you get what's coming to you.

Doesn't change the fact that Ute fans are classless tools.









And child molesters.
 
E.J. Wells said:
Good. I don't want to be in a ****ty BCS crap-hole conference. If BYU does, that's fine, and I agree with the Ute fans here; enjoy the humble pie and sometimes you get what's coming to you.
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Someone is not enjoying their humble pie
 
All smack talk aside, BYU finds themselves in such a weird spot. Trout is probably the only BYU fan who "doesn't care" if BYU finds a home inside a legit conference. Probably because he's the only Cougar fan happy with yearly trouncings of Middle Tennessee State. Yes, Utah is in the middle of getting their asses kicked in the PAC 12, but at least there's light at the end of the tunnel. It's probably a train, but at least they still own the Cougs.
 
jazzman12 said:
All smack talk aside, BYU finds themselves in such a weird spot. Trout is probably the only BYU fan who "doesn't care" if BYU finds a home inside a legit conference. Probably because he's the only Cougar fan happy with yearly trouncings of Middle Tennessee State. Yes, Utah is in the middle of getting their asses kicked in the PAC 12, but at least there's light at the end of the tunnel. It's probably a train, but at least they still own the Cougs.
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i got nothin
 
Would BYU be better off in one of the major conferences? Certainly yes. Is BYU better off now than when they were in the Mountain West? Also, certainly yes.

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colton said:
Would BYU be better off in one of the major conferences? Certainly yes. Is BYU better off now than when they were in the Mountain West? Also, certainly yes.

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Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
 
colton said:
Would BYU be better off in one of the major conferences? Certainly yes. Is BYU better off now than when they were in the Mountain West? Also, certainly yes.

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Your argument isn't untrue, but it's also a little bit of fools gold.

Of course BYU is better off out of the MWC from a financial standpoint, but as a fan, are you seeing any of that extra money? BYU is one of those rare cases in which regardless of how bad their money deal was with their conference, they still had the resources to spend whatever they wanted on their program.

And sure, you're on ESPN more now, but again I'll ask you, is that really a huge benefit to you the fan when half the games are against the Idaho States of the world?

I have to believe that if average BYU fan was really, really, really, honest with themselves, they would have more fun watching BYU play Boise State and Utah State in conference games as they battle it out for the right to face off with Fresno State in a conference championship game. I refuse to believe a November home game against Air Force for a chance to clinch the MWC North division title is somehow less appealing than a November OOC game against Idaho.

Yes, you're on ESPN, and yes, your program is making more $$$, but if you honestly believe that you as a fan are actually better off, then you are pretty easily duped.
 
Are Utah fans still that dense? BYU's scheduling was BCS level last year according to any strength of scheduling metrics. And it will be for the foreseeable future. They have deals with most of the Pac 12, they have deals with schools all over. There is no argument there. They are looking good for any year that is booked out by any program at this point. All of your issues seem to be that you don't equate Boise State, Fresno State, Cincinatti and all those types of teams as being as good as say.....Colorado. When in reality, they are better programs than 3/4's of the BCS trash that pretends they are good because they ride the coatails of the Alabamas and USCs of the world without realizing they still are only what they are. Just pure stupidity on your part, but par for the course.

If we're talking a decade down the road, then maybe there becomes an issue, it's not even close to being there yet.
 
jazzman12 said:
And sure, you're on ESPN more now, but again I'll ask you, is that really a huge benefit to you the fan when half the games are against the Idaho States of the world?

I have to believe that if average BYU fan was really, really, really, honest with themselves, they would have more fun watching BYU play Boise State and Utah State in conference games as they battle it out for the right to face off with Fresno State in a conference championship game. I refuse to believe a November home game against Air Force for a chance to clinch the MWC North division title is somehow less appealing than a November OOC game against Idaho.

Yes, you're on ESPN, and yes, your program is making more $$$, but if you honestly believe that you as a fan are actually better off, then you are pretty easily duped.
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BYU's strength of schedule is at least as strong as it was when they were in the Mountain West, and undoubtedly far stronger than it would be in the current Mountain West.

Here's the strength of schedule ratings for the past 10 years according to the first website I found with historical data:

https://www.teamrankings.com/college-football/ranking/strength-of-schedule-by-team
2004-5 50
2005-6 57
2006-7 62
2007-8 56
2008-9 40
2009-10 43
2010-11 78
2011-12 65
2012-13 48
2013-14 40

So last year ties the strongest schedule BYU has played in the last 10 years.

So yes, BYU is better off on all fronts compared to if they had stayed in the now watered-down Mountain West*: money, exposure/TV, and schedule.


* now if Utah and TCU were still in the Mountain West, and if they had brought Boise State aboard, that would have been a fun conference.
 
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